A pistol duel question.
Posted 10/10/14
You know during gun fights in anime when two people aim their weapons at each other and hesitate to fire?

Would killing the other person produce a reflex, resulting in their trigger being pulled?

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Posted 10/10/14 , edited 10/10/14
That is a good question...I have wondered about that myself. I think it depends on where you shoot the person...if is in the head I don't think so, there is a chance of a spasmatic trigger pull but I do not think the chance is too high. If it is somewhere where death is not instantaneous I am sure that they would pull the trigger.

That is just my thought though...I have no idea what would happen in actuality.
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Posted 10/10/14 , edited 10/10/14
If someone shoots you then you don't have the time to react thus meaning it would be impossible to trigger a conscious reaction... However, it's possible to produce a unconscious reaction if you got shot.

What I just said probably simplified too much, since if the bullet didn't hit a criticle area then it's possible to still survive and shoot while being conscious.
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Posted 10/10/14
If someone is killed then they are dead.
If they are dead their brain will stop sending signals through their nerves.
If their nerves don't have any signals saying "Contract!" then they will relax.
Therefore it seems very unlikely that someone who is KILLED will shoot someone else by reflex.

If they are still alive however, then they might still shoot back. What they are dying of will likely determine if they still have muscular control and be capable of shooting.
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Posted 10/10/14

Hiki-NEET wrote:

You know during gun fights in anime when two people aim their weapons at each other and hesitate to fire?

Would killing the other person produce a reflex, resulting in their trigger being pulled?



It can happen.

Sure it's a hollywood movie, but here you go:

http://youtu.be/R8OWNspU_yE

There is also cadaveric spasms as well. And they aren't kidding when they say "running around like a chicken with it's head cut off" There has also been reports of people who have had massive heart attacks while driving being alive long enough to stop their car then perish. This doesn't include ammo type, shot placement etc etc.

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Posted 10/10/14
Not in every case, but sometimes the body can spasm and pull the trigger, yes.
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Posted 10/10/14

jehester wrote:

It can happen.

Sure it's a hollywood movie, but here you go:

http://youtu.be/R8OWNspU_yE

There is also cadaveric spasms as well. And they aren't kidding when they say "running around like a chicken with it's head cut off" There has also been reports of people who have had massive heart attacks while driving being alive long enough to stop their car then perish. This doesn't include ammo type, shot placement etc etc.


Yep. There's also to take into consideration that, depending on its type, a firearm could conceivably misfire merely by striking the ground.
Posted 10/10/14 , edited 10/10/14
I agree, it can happen, and most likely would in a tensed-up confrontation. Anxiety levels would heighten adrenaline and the situation would be a power keg, especially once pain, shock , and outrage are introduced. I think it'd certainly augment the likelihood of a reflexive fire.
Posted 10/10/14
If you still have the strength to do it.
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Posted 10/11/14 , edited 10/11/14
In real life, if you're drawing weapons to shoot at an enemy, and you pause to talk, you'll die. He who tries to hold a conversation, or even monologue while in a gun battle will die.

You only have time to determine the following:

1) the other guy is drawing a gun.
2a) I had better find a place to run and hide, if it's possible.
2b) I had better draw my gun and start aiming, because it is not possible to run, nor hide.
3) I had better start shooting.

Only in movies and anime do gun duelists stop to talk about it. In the real world, you have fractions of seconds to decide then act. Street gun battles are usually over in a matter of a few seconds. 2 to 5 seconds, usually no longer than 10 seconds (unless you're on a battlefield, then it's an entirely different matter).

The answer to your question is LARGE CALIBER weapons. 9mm pistols will almost guarantee that your opponent will have a chance to shoot back. That's why most law enforcement agencies have gone to using .40 caliber weapons. The larger caliber will not only cause terrible damage to the assailant, but it will knock them on their ass. They won't be able to shoot back because they were getting knocked around. 9mm couldn't do that.

I'll stop now.



.... and now we know the answer to that age old question. "Who shot first?"
Posted 10/11/14
I don't know the specifics when it comes to pulling a trigger. But if someone is highly trained in using arms, then I suppose they would have that reflex built into them.

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I do know for a fact, that certain reflexes don't require the signal to reach the brain, I think the knee-jerk reflex is one of them. This is because even though signals can reach the brain in microseconds, this is still too long when it comes to avoiding something stressful done to your body.

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Posted 10/11/14
it doesn't just happen in anime, but in westerns too
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Posted 10/11/14
if they are shot between the eyes it would destroy the reflex and they wouldnt shoot back, any where else and most likly the shock in the nerves alone would make them pull the trigger
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