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Is there a gray side to things?
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Well hello people at crunchy roll. I had this debate with my aunt and father about a black and white. We got into a argument about if there really is a grey side to things. My aunt and dad said theirs just black and white good and evil no middle. But i believe there to be a middle what would you guys think of this is there just black and white good and evil or is there a middle ground?
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I believe morality to be a construct of one's own design. There isn't really an official rulebook or guide to morality, after all. Life is filled with decisions that are made more complicated only by one's willingness to have inflexible moral principles.

I'm a big fan of doing what I think is right. If I don't do what I think it is right, then I may just end up making a moral decision I'll regret for the rest of my life.

But that's just me.
Posted 10/10/14
Argued with a teacher in the last few months of school about this because he was trying to force me to choose something that I had little knowledge on so I refused. Without a doubt there's a middle. (Neutrality exists which wouldn't fit into bw.)
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Rajyrr wrote:

I believe morality to be a construct of one's own design. There isn't really an official rulebook or guide to morality, after all. Life is filled with decisions that are made more complicated only by one's willingness to have inflexible moral principles.

I'm a big fan of doing what I think is right. If I don't do what I think it is right, then I may just end up making a moral decision I'll regret for the rest of my life.

But that's just me.


Your right with morality being ones owns design. I should add this was first a religious debate they believe in just black and white solely cuz of the bible
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I argued this with a Tea Partier about a year ago. I say there is far less black or white than there is gray. No human is inherently good, nor is any human inherently evil. We have our mercies and our sins. Some are more evil (malicious) than others, and some are more good (benevolent) than others. If I were to attempt give examples of good and evil, I would say Mother Teresa for good while I would go with Adolf Hitler. I might be inclined to claim Kim Jong Il as evil, but he was also probably mentally insane. Now, as I type this, I must ask does insanity beget evil? Is evil something that can happen independent of mental health (can you be evil and be sane?)
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KP_Wrath wrote:

I argued this with a Tea Partier about a year ago. I say there is far less black or white than there is gray. No human is inherently good, nor is any human inherently evil. We have our mercies and our sins. Some are more evil (malicious) than others, and some are more good (benevolent) than others. If I were to attempt give examples of good and evil, I would say Mother Teresa for good while I would go with Adolf Hitler. I might be inclined to claim Kim Jong Il as evil, but he was also probably mentally insane. Now, as I type this, I must ask does insanity beget evil? Is evil something that can happen independent of mental health (can you be evil and be sane?)


Hmmm thats a tough question can you be evil and be sane. I'm going to have to say yes i believe you can you used adolf hitler as evil he was not insane as a example
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I think almost everything falls into the gray area however I do think some things can be pure good and others pure evil.

I think only believing in just black and white can be a dangerous mindset.
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There's always a gray side, but don't let it get "wishy-washy" when it comes to important decisions/events in life.
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iceman009 wrote:


KP_Wrath wrote:

I argued this with a Tea Partier about a year ago. I say there is far less black or white than there is gray. No human is inherently good, nor is any human inherently evil. We have our mercies and our sins. Some are more evil (malicious) than others, and some are more good (benevolent) than others. If I were to attempt give examples of good and evil, I would say Mother Teresa for good while I would go with Adolf Hitler. I might be inclined to claim Kim Jong Il as evil, but he was also probably mentally insane. Now, as I type this, I must ask does insanity beget evil? Is evil something that can happen independent of mental health (can you be evil and be sane?)


Hmmm thats a tough question can you be evil and be sane. I'm going to have to say yes i believe you can you used adolf hitler as evil he was not insane as a example


You also have to take into account of Adolf Hitler, the perception of morality of good and evil. To the Germans, he was their esteemed leader who brought them back from the brink of economic ruin after World War I. he brought Germany back into it's feet, of course, the German people would have loved him. Despite his crimes against humanity that blatantly happened around them yet turned their eyes away in ignorance.

However, the Allied forces viewed him as an evil monstrosity.

So, what is evil to some isn't evil to others, and what is good may not necessarily be good to others.

A thing I used to say during these types of arguements, What if the devil was right and only trying to go against god for his iron-fisted rule? Yet God only pushed his view of the devil being evil while he was evil?

Also animes like Code Geass and Death Note are great examples of morally grey characters.
Light for begin a mass murderer, but of only criminals. And uses everyone around him.
Lelouch for trying to liberate a country, but uses everyone around him like a piece on a chess board.
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There is no black and white, no good and evil. There are only people's motives and goals and how other people perceive other's motives and goals, And the steps taken to achieve those motives and goals.
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A moral or ethical system which only offers positive and negative valuations, and therefore offers no opportunity for any action to ever be partially positive or negative (or perhaps even entirely inert), is inherently incapable of accurately describing the world.
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Only close minded people believe that everything falls into a good side or an evil side. Everything has a Gray side.

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There is a gray side to pretty much everything.. Then again, this is coming from someone who no longer really sees things simply in right and wrong.. A lot of what we choose to see as wrong is only because from our perspective it had a negative consequence/outcome.. I don't believe in trying to force someone against their will or meaninglessly harming someone.. But everything outside of that really depends on all circumstances involved... There are moments when what may seem good at surface value is quite the opposite.
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Posted 10/10/14
I am the earl of grey.
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Of course there's a grey side to everything. There's no argument about it. It's a fact.

Well, in my opinion, anyway.

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