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Is there a gray side to things?
Posted 10/10/14
The gray area is everything.
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Posted 10/11/14 , edited 10/11/14

xPavilion wrote:


iceman009 wrote:


KP_Wrath wrote:

I argued this with a Tea Partier about a year ago. I say there is far less black or white than there is gray. No human is inherently good, nor is any human inherently evil. We have our mercies and our sins. Some are more evil (malicious) than others, and some are more good (benevolent) than others. If I were to attempt give examples of good and evil, I would say Mother Teresa for good while I would go with Adolf Hitler. I might be inclined to claim Kim Jong Il as evil, but he was also probably mentally insane. Now, as I type this, I must ask does insanity beget evil? Is evil something that can happen independent of mental health (can you be evil and be sane?)


Hmmm thats a tough question can you be evil and be sane. I'm going to have to say yes i believe you can you used adolf hitler as evil he was not insane as a example


You also have to take into account of Adolf Hitler, the perception of morality of good and evil. To the Germans, he was their esteemed leader who brought them back from the brink of economic ruin after World War I. he brought Germany back into it's feet, of course, the German people would have loved him. Despite his crimes against humanity that blatantly happened around them yet turned their eyes away in ignorance.

However, the Allied forces viewed him as an evil monstrosity.

So, what is evil to some isn't evil to others, and what is good may not necessarily be good to others.

A thing I used to say during these types of arguements, What if the devil was right and only trying to go against god for his iron-fisted rule? Yet God only pushed his view of the devil being evil while he was evil?

Also animes like Code Geass and Death Note are great examples of morally grey characters.
Light for begin a mass murderer, but of only criminals. And uses everyone around him.
Lelouch for trying to liberate a country, but uses everyone around him like a piece on a chess board.


Thank you for correcting me you gave much better examples of grey characters
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Posted 10/11/14
nothing is black and white, everything is grey
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Posted 10/11/14
If Mass Effect teached me something it was grey side of things lol
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Posted 10/11/14
I believe that most things are just shades of grey. Some lighter than others, and some darker. I think they're few things that are purely black and white, because people have different motivations for doing certain things.
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Posted 10/11/14
there's always going to be a grey area because people have opinions and there's no such thing as "right or wrong". to be honest i kinda of hate that humans have to label things as "good or evil" because something that i'm doing may be good for me, but it's an evil deed to someone else, y'know?? so really i dont think there's ever a solid black or white, i think everything in life is a grey area because we humans are always affecting one another
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Posted 10/11/14
there's only black
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Posted 10/11/14
I don't believe that there is a "grey" side to things. You end up on that one path depending on what you choose (of course you can change) either good or evil depending on your choices.
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Argument to Moderation/Gray Fallacy

Gray areas exist, but aren't always the best option.

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what difference between good and evil? Nothing. In the end, it just how we see our action and what we do with them. Was Hitler evil for doing something he believed in? Yes, in our eyes we think that, but all he did was following his own way of life.
We are different and that why we label thing as good and evil, because without rules we are just mindless beast waiting for the moment of death.
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As being a former Gray Warden, I know all about the gray sides of things.
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Right and wrong clearly exist. Some would argue that its all a matter of perspective but to be honest, that's always felt to me like an easy way to help one sleep at night or an excuse for terrible people to do what they want regardless of outcome.

Now, Does this mean that every action is either a good action or a bad action? No. An action can be both good AND bad.

For example, lets look at stealing. Stealing is bad.

Is stealing wrong if the theft is to feed one's family? Yes. HOWEVER, society, and people as a whole almost universally, are willing to overlook certain wrongs if they have reasonable justification. Does this mean the wrong is any less wrong? No. There's still a large amount of negative emotions and consequences tied to these actions we deem wrong. Regardless of the amount of benefit to a 'wrong' action, a wrong action is still wrong.

Can that wrong action still be necessary? Certainly. Life is not pretty and, I would argue, that life is not good to 'good' people. There are many points in life where you will be forced to take a 'wrong' action. Maybe you need to steal to eat. Maybe, you need to lie to help someone. Maybe, and god forbid this occur, you have to kill someone to save someone else's life. All these actions are wrong. Regardless of the net benefit, someone will be hurt by these actions and that is why they are bad.

Moral of this story, we have to be terrible people to survive. The only way we can decide if we've been 'good' people when all is said and done, is if our positive actions outweigh our negative ones and if the negative actions we do take, are mitigated by the potential benefits to those around us.

Posted 10/11/14
It depends on what it is, to whom, and the means to the end (the motives behind, the causes and justifications for the act). Evil often exists in people's minds almost devoid of all good (it eclipses it) ,but good is always under more scrutiny, ("infinitey grayer") It might be related somehow to the concept of God having no evil within Him, as evil would be in that light be viewed as an imperfection or tarnish, not an opposite. Saying that though, I think on Earth, however, few things are black and white, if anything. Everyone I know has good and evil in them, every light has its shadow, but its a matter of degrees.
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Posted 10/11/14
What about the purple side?
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Posted 10/11/14
There ish always gray
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