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Inspired (as might have been guessed) by this season's 38th presentation of F-S/N, I'm left wondering why people love so much these pretty much straight rehashes.

Can anyone help me?
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windsagio wrote:

Inspired (as might have been guessed) by this season's 38th presentation of F-S/N, I'm left wondering why people love so much these pretty much straight rehashes.

Can anyone help me?


I can point you to where to get help?

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I'm actually looking forward to Hunter x Hunter (2022).

But to answer the question, i guess people love repetition.
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GoldTStar wrote:

I'm actually looking forward to Hunter x Hunter (2022).


LOL, wonder what that would look like even,,,,,,...........

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I would say there are several reasons for repeated series'.
1.) Nostalgia, if it is the same thing with just a modernized look and feel.
2.) The occasional case of a visual novel where they can go back and take another route. (This being the case in F/SN: UB)
3.) Availability, some series' are quite difficult to find in stores and aren't available (legally) to be streamed. One I would love to see remade would be Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, I think it would look fantastic with a modern vibe.

Well, that's everything that I can think of so there you go.
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Some people can't let go.
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Personally, as a Visual Novel fan of Fate/stay night in particular. the reason why i enjoy watching this "rehash" as you put it is because the original anime didn't do the source material enough justice. And the movie that was done after the fact, was too condensed to do the source justice either. Also as we all know, anime Shounen movies are all about the action scenes, no one gives a damn about the story.

I get where you are coming from (9 times out of 10 a remake is unnecessary), however, in some cases remakes or re-imaginings are worth exploring because of how badly done the original was either due to technology or poor production or both.

Another remake id really like to see is "Little Busters" because JCstaff did a horrible job with their interpretation of the Visual Novel. I know it wont happen, but its worth saying regardless.

If you really think about it, even by that days standards, F/S-N's original anime was god awful in both production, technology and even the studio's interpretation was just bad as well.

You have to remember that with a separate source material like a book, visual novel, or Manga, the people doing the actual adaptation have the ability to change things to help make them easier or even in some cases completely alter parts that are crucial to understanding the actual plot and its elements.
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The Naruto fan-base should be able to answer your question.
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Personally, as a Visual Novel fan of Fate/stay night in particular. the reason why i enjoy watching this "rehash" as you put it is because the original anime didn't do the source material enough justice. And the movie that was done after the fact, was too condensed to do the source justice either. Also as we all know, anime Shounen movies are all about the action scenes, no one gives a damn about the story.

I get where you are coming from (9 times out of 10 a remake is unnecessary), however, in some cases remakes or re-imaginings are worth exploring because of how badly done the original was either due to technology or poor production or both.

Another remake id really like to see is "Little Busters" because JCstaff did a horrible job with their interpretation of the Visual Novel. I know it wont happen, but its worth saying regardless.

If you really think about it, even by that days standards, F/S-N's original anime was god awful in both production, technology and even the studio's interpretation was just bad as well.

You have to remember that with a separate source material like a book, visual novel, or Manga, the people doing the actual adaptation have the ability to change things to help make them easier or even in some cases completely alter parts that are crucial to understanding the actual plot and its elements.


Well people seem to be actively excited. Is this like the 'next big MMO' thing, where people think 'well even if it didn't work out last time, I'm sure this will be the one!'

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In general I get nostalgia (ie Sailormoon and Star Blazers), but the reboot time seems to be getting shorter and shorter, maybe that's just me being curmudgeonly.
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windsagio wrote:


abeltensro wrote:

Personally, as a Visual Novel fan of Fate/stay night in particular. the reason why i enjoy watching this "rehash" as you put it is because the original anime didn't do the source material enough justice. And the movie that was done after the fact, was too condensed to do the source justice either. Also as we all know, anime Shounen movies are all about the action scenes, no one gives a damn about the story.

I get where you are coming from (9 times out of 10 a remake is unnecessary), however, in some cases remakes or re-imaginings are worth exploring because of how badly done the original was either due to technology or poor production or both.

Another remake id really like to see is "Little Busters" because JCstaff did a horrible job with their interpretation of the Visual Novel. I know it wont happen, but its worth saying regardless.

If you really think about it, even by that days standards, F/S-N's original anime was god awful in both production, technology and even the studio's interpretation was just bad as well.

You have to remember that with a separate source material like a book, visual novel, or Manga, the people doing the actual adaptation have the ability to change things to help make them easier or even in some cases completely alter parts that are crucial to understanding the actual plot and its elements.


Well people seem to be actively excited. Is this like the 'next big MMO' thing, where people think 'well even if it didn't work out last time, I'm sure this will be the one!'

~~

In general I get nostalgia (ie Sailormoon and Star Blazers), but the reboot time seems to be getting shorter and shorter, maybe that's just me being curmudgeonly.


no you're absolutely correct. Reboots can and do go horribly wrong more times than not. however, considering how Ufotable did a good job with F/Z i wouldn't be surprised if they did a good job with F/s-n UB (not that its all that hard to be better than the 2006 version). Technically, its not a true reboot in the sense of the word since its a different route of the VN. Though I'm sure episodes 1-5 will probably almost be mirror images of the originals in terms of story, the anime will start to deviate quite quickly which almost makes it a sequel/prequel in a sense.

As some one with fond memories of the VN (which i played well before seeing the show/movie) I don't think there's anything wrong with getting hyped about something like this. Hell, there's nothing wrong with getting hyped over anything in general. When you enjoy something, usually you want others to enjoy it just as you did. I enjoyed the Visual novel immensely but not many of my friends would read a visual novel (even the ones into anime) because of the time and effort required and as such was extremely disappointed with the 2006 anime.

When it comes down to it, almost all anime comes from some kind of source, (Manga, visual novels, light novels). If you think of it like that, then almost all anime is a re-imagination of the source that it came from. Because we don't get most of these manga, light novels and visual novels in the states before an anime adaptation has appeared we don't see them as adaptations most of the time. From that point of view, i don't see a problem trying to adapt another anime into a new anime if there's a reason for it. Also very rarely is there a carbon copy anime to anime reboot. Hellsing ultimate for example was an anime interpretation of the manga where as the original deviated from the manga story. Carbon copy anime tends to come in the form of movies these days rather then anime series since it costs less to make a movie then to make a series with most of those being made for fans of those specific series, (Puella Magi Madoka Magica for example.).

Actually when you really think about the history of the anime movies vs the anime shows, the "reboot" movies are and have been a thing in japan for a while. It gives the studio a chance to fix mistakes and change tiny details in the story or artwork.
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windsagio wrote:
Can anyone help me?


*Elder Cain voice from the first Diablo*

Legends grow in the retelling, Windy, that they do.
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abeltensro wrote:

Another remake id really like to see is "Little Busters" because JCstaff did a horrible job with their interpretation of the Visual Novel. I know it wont happen, but its worth saying regardless.


I was under the impression that Key was either working closely with or supervising the anime adaptation. If this is true, then it seems unfair to put all of the blame on J.C. Staff. I haven't played the vn, but I was also under the impression that it would be very difficult to adapt into anime form. I have seen both sides of the equation too: some who think the adaptation was faithful and those who don't.
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I believe there has been a hentai that has been remade.
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windsagio wrote:
Can anyone help me?


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Legends grow in the retelling, Windy, that they do.


your msg is awesome, never change it.

NTR asuna... lol
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Anime is probs the worst industry to inquire about this, but maybe also the best.

So........much........derivative...........junk............



Wonder how much of it has to do with Japanese broadcast laws? Think I remember that they actually have certain content / themes that aren't allowed to be aired, or doing so is a hassle to go through.
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