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Russia on the attack?
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Posted 10/18/14

Madpotator wrote:

I think they'll run through us first.


Nah, they'll run around you... Why waste effort to fight two countries when they can attack us and then attack you from two sides............................ Hey guys, i figured out their tactic!... Just don't tell Putin! I think you understand that I'm not taking this seriously at all.

Btw, someone at the Russia embassy said that they had a damaged submarine in our waters and that's why they sent in another submarine, it's laughable how they think anyone is going to buy that story.
Posted 10/18/14

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severticas wrote:



shh.. that's meant to be top secret. putin is gonna be the man in charge forever




Of course, the man does use a bear as a mount, afterall!



of course you'd say that, he's a real panty dropper

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of course you'd say that, he's a real panty dropper





Stop! I can hardly contain myself!


Posted 10/18/14
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Posted 10/18/14
Only time will tell what their game is about. I don't think Putin is crazy enough to rush to declare war anytime soon, but he's been a bit testy as of late. Nato and the UN are not stupid, and we have had our eyes on them for quite some time now. If Putin goes too far, they will respond accordingly, whether it be tougher sanctions or exclusion from NATO. Putin knows this, so I highly doubt he will push his luck further, but I might be mistaken. From a domestic perspective,I wouldn't be worried, but we'll see with the neighboring countries how far he can push his boundaries.
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Posted 10/18/14

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I'm sure I saw something about Russian military planes being somewhere near the UK airspace, therefore we sent two fighter jets up to investigate and they flew off. Strange :S (Might have been a while ago though)


This isn't just the airspace. This is both seaspace and airspace. Something is going on... But it's probably nothing serious, it's probably just them testing our defense. Anyways, someone at their embassy said that they had a submarine in Swedish waters and that's why they sent in another submarine... I can't see anyone buy that story, it's just so stupid.
Posted 10/18/14
Communists be like
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Posted 10/19/14

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Communists be like


Communism isn't the problem. Russia is just a example where communism has gone wrong, Vietnam is a communism country and they have it 10 times better then Russian citizens... I've been there, so I know.
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Russia knows what will happen in an all at war with the west, millions and millions will die on both side and Putin is smart enough to not want that. 30 - 40 years ago if these same events were happening WW3 would have already had started.

These are just tests. Russia knows that is has a VERY long leash and bottom line, the sanctions mean nearly nothing to Putin. The only thing he is really concerned about is how far he can push before the west intervenes militarily.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is a rogue unit does something not controllable by the head of each state and military.
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Considering the geography of the Baltic Sea area it's impossible for Russia to move any naval equipment from Kaliningrad or St. Petersburg without crossing either Danish or Swedish maritime areas. The Baltic ports are the only ones that aren't covered in ice for 6 months out of the year so given that I wouldnt be too concerned about it. There really isn't a whole lot for Russia to gain strategically by antagonizing independent Scandinavian countries when they can antagonize their main adversaries from Vladivostok on the pacific without alienating any potential allies in Northern Europe. I would have to agree that I don't think Russia has a lot to gain by starting an international war.
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Posted 10/20/14

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Russia knows what will happen in an all at war with the west, millions and millions will die on both side and Putin is smart enough to not want that. 30 - 40 years ago if these same events were happening WW3 would have already had started.

These are just tests. Russia knows that is has a VERY long leash and bottom line, the sanctions mean nearly nothing to Putin. The only thing he is really concerned about is how far he can push before the west intervenes militarily.

The only thing I'm worried about right now is a rogue unit does something not controllable by the head of each state and military.


It's Putin, he'll do anything to get into international news.
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WELL if they do get too frisky with you guys, I'll be the first to volunteer to help out my beloved neighbours!
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What comes to violating airspaces... it's just normal, they do it all the time.
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This thread needs some contextualization via news sources:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/20/suspicious-submarine-sighting-off-swedens-coast-prompts-hunt-for-red-october-comparisons/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29680960

Seems the Swedish government wants to keep its hand close to its chest until they have solid evidence to back any claims they make. Smart move.


bernardwheelerjr wrote:

putin (and the rest of the world for that matter) knows the united states is impotent now. if europe doesn't like it they can start building a real military of their own because, the good old days where they could just sandbag and depend on the US are over.


That word, "impotent". I do not think it means what you think it means.

Describing a country which is in possession of an unrivaled blue water navy with top-notch logistical capabilities and global force projection, a currency which serves as the dominant global reserve currency and is the most widely circulated in international transactions, the highest gross domestic product of any single country on the planet (the EU is not a country), provides the bulk of NATO's funding, holds a permanent seat on the UN security council (and the veto power that comes therewith), and has the world's largest stockpile of active nuclear warheads as "impotent" is ludicrous.
Posted 10/20/14
Here are some more links:
www.newrepublic.com/.../russias-geopolitical-threat-and-obamas-meeting-poroshenko‎
caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/.../how-big-a-threat-to-the-u-s-is-russia/‎
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/.../cnn-poll-most-see-russia-as-a-threat-to-u-s/‎
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post.../romney-russia-is-not-a-threat-to-us/‎

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