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News U.K. Man Sentenced for Prohibited Images of 'Manga' Children
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If I remember correctly, there was a case in Australia where a man was caught with child pornography. In the mix was some very detailed drawings of, what appeared to be, underage girls. The drawings were thrown into his charges along with the normal pictures, but this was also was not his first conviction.

All of that and Australia has some pretty hefty child pornography laws.
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Thankfully that criminal will be behind bars where he can't harm anymore fictional children.

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!! WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE FICTIONAL CHILDREN?!
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Pornagraphy doesn't really have a "set" definition in some nations, so there's that to think of.


i would like to highlight the word "some nations".

"In order for an image to be a "prohibited image", there are 3 elements that must be satisfied."


2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character; and



under #2, so yes, anything sexualizing young children might be deemed harmful.


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'Grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of an obscene character' are not intended to be read as three separate concepts. "Grossly offensive" and "disgusting" are examples of "an obscene character" and not alternatives to it. They are drawn from the ordinary dictionary definition of 'obscene' and are intended to convey a non-technical definition of that concept.


In answer to your original question: yes, the uk dose have set definition on this type of imagery.
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^-o i have read the law, it's completely about sex.


In order for an image to be a "prohibited image", there are 3 elements that must be satisfied. An image must meet all 3 of the elements which are:

1. That the image is pornographic;
2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character; and
3. That the image focuses solely or principally on a child's genitals or anal region, or portrays any of the following acts:



http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/prohibited_images_of_children/

Ending of Kodomo No Jikan.

Nothing graphic was shown to be honest. Anyhoo, anyone could find a good reason to stick virtually anything under #2, so yes, anything sexualizing young children might be deemed harmful. And with today's anime, that's a lot. Pornagraphy doesn't really have a "set" definition in some nations, so there's that to think of.


Rin was an adult and graduated High School by the end of Kodomo No Jikan. Kodomo No Jikan is a great comming of age and love story and is no where near as offensive as people make it out to be,
Posted 10/20/14 , edited 10/20/14

peaka10 wrote:


Pornagraphy doesn't really have a "set" definition in some nations, so there's that to think of.


i would like to highlight the word "some nations".

"In order for an image to be a "prohibited image", there are 3 elements that must be satisfied."


2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character; and



under #2, so yes, anything sexualizing young children might be deemed harmful.


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'Grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of an obscene character' are not intended to be read as three separate concepts. "Grossly offensive" and "disgusting" are examples of "an obscene character" and not alternatives to it. They are drawn from the ordinary dictionary definition of 'obscene' and are intended to convey a non-technical definition of that concept.


In answer to your original question: yes, the uk dose have set definition on this type of imagery.


Oh, okay, wasn't sure, and I misread the fact that all three need to be conveyed in order to be deemed inappropriate. Thought it was one of the three.
Although the words are vague. Does porn necessarily include only nude images or does it have to be of sexual acts in progression is what i am wondering. Now it has to be all 3. Interesting. Welp, I can look at lolicon without fear.
Posted 10/20/14 , edited 10/20/14

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


peaka10 wrote:

^-o i have read the law, it's completely about sex.


In order for an image to be a "prohibited image", there are 3 elements that must be satisfied. An image must meet all 3 of the elements which are:

1. That the image is pornographic;
2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character; and
3. That the image focuses solely or principally on a child's genitals or anal region, or portrays any of the following acts:



http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/prohibited_images_of_children/

Ending of Kodomo No Jikan.

Nothing graphic was shown to be honest. Anyhoo, anyone could find a good reason to stick virtually anything under #2, so yes, anything sexualizing young children might be deemed harmful. And with today's anime, that's a lot. Pornagraphy doesn't really have a "set" definition in some nations, so there's that to think of.


Rin was an adult and graduated High School by the end of Kodomo No Jikan. Kodomo No Jikan is a great comming of age and love story and is no where near as offensive as people make it out to be,

Forgive me if I am wrong, but Rin was 16, so she might still be considered a child. She appears quite similar to her 9 year old self. This is the problem with attaching age to images.

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The legal age for sex in the uk is 16.
This is when things get interesting. ^_^

In cases like this it completely comes down to her sexual comprehension and how she acts.


They are drawn from the ordinary dictionary definition of 'obscene' "and are intended to convey a non-technical definition of that concept".



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This is why obscenity laws need to be crafted with a scalpel, not a sledgehammer. The law is in need of revision to prevent further incursions into the private lives of people who are inflicting no material harm on anyone and pose no prospective threat to society as a result of their actions. Furthermore, whether society "could well do without" something or not is immaterial to the question of whether or not it ought to be legal or whether it constitutes a violation of present law. I could do quite well indeed without opinionated judges who mock people to feel important, but it has never occurred to me that the bastards ought to be banned.

Edit: To be clear, I refer to revisions which specifically exclude materials such as anime and manga. Explicit photographs and film of living, breathing children are something which need to be constantly kept in check since they inflict serious harm.
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Don't really know what to say about this. I personally don't condone anything sexual about a child (Under 18 This is my opinion as I live in the USA). So I am quite glad he got sentenced and he should consider himself lucky, he was off easy on his second offense.
Posted 10/20/14
well fuck, anyone who views this thread now knows it's gonna be illegal so this is kind of a trap. all extreme lolicons will be targets now.

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i think law&order did an episode on this how did they even find the images?


which episode? xD


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Posted 10/20/14
That man was clearly sick and I'm glad he's getting rehabilitated by the legal system.

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Damn pedophiles, coming after our FICTIONAL children!!!
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I find all those murdering games distasteful and disgusting too, why aren't they all banned


After all, people would be more likely to go on mass murder sprees because of those games...


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This is so dumb that they must be covering up something... namely the evils of science! It's a conspiracy11

The violated 2-D girls are finally coming to get us
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i honestlt not sure where i stand on this because after all child pornography is a crime and a serious one at that but there not even real so it's not like anyone is getting hurt by these images.
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