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Shootings in Ottawa on Parliament Hill
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Posted 10/22/14

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I turned on the news and the first thing I see is reporters speculating whether or not the shooter was a radical Muslim and if this was a lone wolf attack. Typical American propaganda. "Omg this guy whose not in our country just shot someone. He's probably a part of ISIS. Let's shoot more missles at already damaged Middle Eastern towns!"


Actually the CBC coverage of this has been about as professional as I have ever seen.

Maybe CNN or Faux sensationalized it?
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First thing I heard when I woke up this morning. I live in Ottawa so this is quite a shock to me, to all of us.

But we will not be intimidated. Justice will be dealt swiftly.


We're Canadian, we stand strong.
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PhantomGundam wrote:

I turned on the news and the first thing I see is reporters speculating whether or not the shooter was a radical Muslim and if this was a lone wolf attack. Typical American propaganda. "Omg this guy whose not in our country just shot someone. He's probably a part of ISIS. Let's shoot more missles at already damaged Middle Eastern towns!"


Actually the CBC coverage of this has been about as professional as I have ever seen.

Maybe CNN or Faux sensationalized it?


Yup. CNN. They've already declared the shooter to be a radical Muslim now. American officials are on alert thinking another radical will attack America soon. Also, somebody just jumped the white house fence... again. These guys need a new fence.
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I love you my beautiful Canada.
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I asked myself the same question beause when i went on a fieldtrip there they wouldn't even let me in with a geometry set that was in my backpack but this guy gets in with a gun
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Posted 10/22/14

PhantomGundam wrote:


SpiritWolf15 wrote:


PhantomGundam wrote:

I turned on the news and the first thing I see is reporters speculating whether or not the shooter was a radical Muslim and if this was a lone wolf attack. Typical American propaganda. "Omg this guy whose not in our country just shot someone. He's probably a part of ISIS. Let's shoot more missles at already damaged Middle Eastern towns!"


Actually the CBC coverage of this has been about as professional as I have ever seen.

Maybe CNN or Faux sensationalized it?


Yup. CNN. They've already declared the shooter to be a radical Muslim now. American officials are on alert thinking another radical will attack America soon. Also, somebody just jumped the white house fence... again. These guys need a new fence.


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CENOTAPH VIGIL
There is a growing movement within Canada's military family to attend at a local cenotaph to honour the vigil that Cpl. Nathan Cirillo was standing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier when he was killed in the performance of his duties, on Canadian soil. This is not an official function.
Time: Saturday October 25 at 10:00 am
Where: At Your Local Cenotaph
Details: Please attend with beret/headdress and medals.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1514049165504297/?ref_newsfeed_story_type=regular

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Posted 10/24/14

PhantomGundam wrote:

Yup. CNN. They've already declared the shooter to be a radical Muslim now. American officials are on alert thinking another radical will attack America soon. Also, somebody just jumped the white house fence... again. These guys need a new fence.


The shooter WAS a radical Muslim. He was a newly converted Muslim too.

With ISIS everywhere you never know. Better be prepared.

Yes, they need a new fence. And new guards.
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Its time to remove the 'radicalised' from our countries.
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PhantomGundam wrote:

Yup. CNN. They've already declared the shooter to be a radical Muslim now. American officials are on alert thinking another radical will attack America soon. Also, somebody just jumped the white house fence... again. These guys need a new fence.


The shooter WAS a radical Muslim. He was a newly converted Muslim too.

With ISIS everywhere you never know. Better be prepared.

Yes, they need a new fence. And new guards.


That wasn't known however at the time some news broadcasts were saying it was so. CBC showed clear restraint and clearly labeled an speculations in their broadcasts as such. Don't know about CNN or Faux, wasn't even expecting them to notice that Canada had a problem.


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That wasn't known however at the time some news broadcasts were saying it was so. CBC showed clear restraint and clearly labeled an speculations in their broadcasts as such. Don't know about CNN or Faux, wasn't even expecting them to notice that Canada had a problem.


From what I watched not only on CNN but other more local news, early on after the stereotypical suspicion of the person being a follower of Islam, pretty quickly it was revealed that there was a strong possibility that the shooter was Muslim. Then it was actually discovered to be so.

Personally, I'd much rather there be some speculation as to who is behind all the chaos than outright political correctness.

I don't see why people are getting so worked up on this (Muslim) issue. In these times especially, unfortunately because of the radicalization of Isalm, globally when an attack happens "Muslim" will be the first thing that jumps to people's minds whether they want to admit it or not - beyond all that sham of Political Correctness, this is what they're thinking . In the aftermath of this incident, I went to many discussions/forums/commentary and globally the responses immediately jumped to a Muslim. UK, Germany, Moscow, States, Canada, Asian countries...Globally this was the stereotypical first comment, first thought.

CNN is a global news center, and they report on global issues, mostly the big ones and a couple of not-so-"major" ones so yes, they "noticed" Canada was having shitty day.



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papagolfwhiskey wrote:

That wasn't known however at the time some news broadcasts were saying it was so. CBC showed clear restraint and clearly labeled an speculations in their broadcasts as such. Don't know about CNN or Faux, wasn't even expecting them to notice that Canada had a problem.


From what I watched not only on CNN but other more local news, early on after the stereotypical suspicion of the person being a follower of Islam, pretty quickly it was revealed that there was a strong possibility that the shooter was Muslim. Then it was actually discovered to be so.

Personally, I'd much rather there be some speculation as to who is behind all the chaos than outright political correctness.

I don't see why people are getting so worked up on this (Muslim) issue. In these times especially, unfortunately because of the radicalization of Isalm, globally when an attack happens "Muslim" will be the first thing that jumps to people's minds whether they want to admit it or not - beyond all that sham of Political Correctness, this is what they're thinking . In the aftermath of this incident, I went to many discussions/forums/commentary and globally the responses immediately jumped to a Muslim. UK, Germany, Moscow, States, Canada, Asian countries...Globally this was the stereotypical first comment, first thought.

CNN is a global news center, and they report on global issues, mostly the big ones and a couple of not-so-"major" ones so yes, they "noticed" Canada was having shitty day.





Funny it didn't mention that he was born in this country. he was someone who had in the past needed psychiatric help or that he'd recently been living in a homeless shelter. the only thing that matters is that he was Muslim

Re CNN - No they paid attention because a 'muslim' caused a shitty day.

Though I'm not so sure aside from the casualty what was so shitty about it. A guy with a gun jumps out of ambush and is dead within four minutes. Killed by the parliamentary Sgt. At Arms. The traditional defender of parliament. The only thing that could have made it better was if he actually used either his ceremonial sword or the parliamentary mace.

Oh and it's not ' political correctness' to refuse to speculate when you don't know. It's called SANITY.

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Funny it didn't mention that he was born in this country. he was someone who had in the past needed psychiatric help or that he'd recently been living in a homeless shelter. the only thing that matters is that he was Muslim

Re CNN - No they paid attention because a 'muslim' caused a shitty day.

Though I'm not so sure aside from the casualty what was so shitty about it. A guy with a gun jumps out of ambush and is dead within four minutes. Killed by the parliamentary Sgt. At Arms. The traditional defender of parliament. The only thing that could have made it better was if he actually used either his ceremonial sword or the parliamentary mace.

Oh and it's not ' political correctness' to refuse to speculate when you don't know. It's called SANITY.



I'm not sure what you're talking about because several times on CNN it was stated that the person was a Canadian. I came across that several times while I watched the coverage. Later on it also said his dad was from Libya and his mom Canadian and that he (the shooter) had a criminal record and that he wanted to go to Syria.

Wrong. This is big news because it was an act of terror in a peaceful country when there is so much tension and trouble globally. This was a sad reminder that even peaceful Canada cannot escape from terrorism on its own soil. This went beyond a "Muslim making people have a shitty day".

Of course, considering all the trouble in the world and worry about ISIS globally, after it was revealed he was Muslim it became even bigger. And not just on CNN but on global reporting sites as well.

Especially as a Canadian, I'm surprised you would say something like that. It was a shitty day for Canada. A peaceful country upset by something like this especially when there is so much trouble globally? This is a big deal on different levels beyond the fact that an innocent person lost his life and now his little boy has no daddy.

Again: with all the Muslim-related incidents (yes, by EXTREMISTS, not regular Muslims) globally, the first thing that would come to mind would be "could the shooter be Muslim"? It is only natural given what is happening. Again: this happened not only on CNN but global sites. It is right? No. But it is obvious that is the first thing people would think about and say. The proof is in the global commentary and news casting.

For sane people, this is what they would immediately connect any act of terrorism to, especially with what is happening in many places over the world. This sanity would make them jump to this conclusion first of all wrong or right.

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My point was there is/was no need for 'heightened security' or any other alarmist responses. the man was a lone gunman and dead within four minutes of his debut. but people are running around like the sky is falling saying "how could this happen?"



Extreme Islam is always suspect when bad things happen? That's Sanity? Really? so what branch of Islam was the Batman shooter, or Timothy McViegh? or that kid who shot up a school? or here in Canada the man who shot all those women at L'ecole Polytechnic?


Edit: anyway sorry if I sound harsh. I just don't subscribe to the culture of fear.

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