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Racism And Nazism
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I'm well aware of that there's been other genocides in the past that've done much worst stuff then the nazis. A example is how Turkish people was treated during the first world war. The reason for why I took up nazis are because of ignorant f*cks whom are claiming that a ice cream that has the name 88 is connected to nasism.
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I never knew about this. All I can say is, thank you for opening up my eyes about these... ignorant... people....


I never expected people would take this thread as a informative post. Anyways, I'm just happy to help if some people got something out of this. If I'm gonna be honest then I just wanted to get some things out of my system that have been bugging me for a while.
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I'm not trying to start a political war or anything on CR nor am I a racist or nazi. Now proceed to my rant


I live in Sweden and as such I don't know how it is in other countries outside Sweden. But in Sweden people use racism and nazism as a excuse for being butthurt over something.

Let's start off with racism. Humans with a darker skinned color have in the past (less then 100 years ago) been treated like living trash by white skinned humans. And this has of course made them pissed and I fully understand why... But now they've got the same rights as us "white", so it's all in the past (atleast in Sweden). And I look at them as true equals.



A few years ago there was a chocolate drink named "pucko" (translating to stupid). The company behind pucko advertised the chocolate drink with taglines like "why don't you drink some, stupid". And everyone was completely fine with both the drink and how it was advertised until there was this one person who decided that it was racist... So what did he/she do? Well, she/he reported the company to the police... And guess what? the company had to stop making the product and pay damages to him/her just because he/she claimed it was racist. I'm against this and I hate people who do these type of things as excuses to make things go their way. Infact, I know friends who are dark who say that people who do these type of things are just a embarrassment to the black people.



Now let's hop over to Nazism. It's not a secret what the nazi f*cks did to jews in world war 2, I do think that everyone who supports Nazism should be thrown into prison since all people are equal. You can't claim that your life problems are connected to another gender or race and as such I think it's a horrible way of life to support the nazi way of thinking. However I'm also against how some anti-nazi people think. In the year 1988 a Swedish ice cream manufacturer made a ice cream with the name 88.



And a few weeks the media started saying things like it had a Nazi message hidden within it... What you ask? Well............... The people whom claims that it had a Nazi message in it said that H is the 8th letter in the alphabet and that in the 2nd world war nazi-germany used 88 as a code for "hail hitler". And all I have to say to the f*cks whom think that it's meant as a nazi message is this... If you have a brain then use it, the ice cream was made in 1988, thus it's name. The name has no connection to Nazism what so f******ever.

So what do you thin about my rant? are your country experiencing anything similar?


You always make great threads, My Man. Good Read.
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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

I'm well aware of that there's been other genocides in the past that've done much worst stuff then the nazis. A example is how Turkish people was treated during the first world war. The reason for why I took up nazis are because of ignorant f*cks whom are claiming that a ice cream that has the name 88 is connected to nasism.


I'm not sure what you're talking about. Exactly how were the Turks treated? It's a proven fact that they killed 1.5+ million Armenians for the sake of land during WW1. Following with the murders of the Assyrians. But okay.
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If people are really, truly concerned about Nazism in Sweden I suggest they do something about the disturbing increase in the proportion of parliament held by Sverigedemokraterna and stop worrying about ice cream bars with poorly chosen names.

For the benefit of those who aren't in the know about Swedish politics, the Sweden Democrats (Sverigedemokraterna) are basically a rebranded version of the Swedish Nazis' party, and last I checked none of the other parties will caucus with them. Still, they gained a ridiculous amount of seats in the 2014 general election and are currently the third largest party in the Riksdag. This shit has to stop.
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If people are really, truly concerned about Nazism in Sweden I suggest they do something about the disturbing increase in the proportion of parliament held by Sverigedemokraterna and stop worrying about ice cream bars with poorly chosen names.

For the benefit of those who aren't in the know about Swedish politics, the Sweden Democrats (Sverigedemokraterna) are basically a rebranded version of the Swedish Nazis' party, and last I checked none of the other parties will caucus with them. Still, they gained a ridiculous amount of seats in the 2014 general election and are currently the third largest party in the Riksdag. This shit has to stop.


This definitely pisses me off, I'll have to do my own research on it. Kudos to you for pointing this out.
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Al Sharpton is a ignorant idiot
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This definitely pisses me off, I'll have to do my own research on it. Kudos to you for pointing this out.


Careful as you read the Wiki page, and really think about what's being said. The party's first auditor was a former member of the SS, the party's early chairman was a member of the Nordic Reich Party (a Neo-Nazi party founded in 1956 and which only recently dissolved), but the article states that the party has only various "connections" to Nazism in its history. The. Auditor. And. Chairman. Dammit.

Anyway, the point is that the article has been doctored to make the party's origins seem less Nazi-like when there's just plain no hiding it.
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Hmm, it seems like you two don't have the full story of what happened and why Sverigedemokraterna became as big as they currently are nor the reason why they're doomed to fail.

Let's start with the reason as to why they got big in the first place in the election last month. Sweden has a law/system (socialbidrag) that gives out money if you don't have a job. And as of right now Sweden is immigrating at a mad rate that is damaging our economy, people wouldn't have a single problem with immigration if we did something more then take people into the country and then give them money. What Sweden needs is a good immigration system where we both take in people and then educate people. Then help them into our companies... However that's not what we're doing. Infact, 60% of the people who voted for Sverigedemokraterna in this election voted for them as a protest against the other parties for not bringing up our ever growing immigration... It's accully rather sad and pathetic how scared politicians have become to be laybled as a racist/nazist in Sweden.

Reps from all (7) the big political parties said that they don't care who you vote for as long as you don't vote for Sverigedemokraterna and that's it's us 7 (as in them) against the evil Sverigedemokraterna........ And if you think about it then that's not really a reason that makes someone vote for your party since well, they never gave a reason for people to vote for them more then we will take in more people into the country.

Then here's why Sverigedemokraterna will fail, the party leader Jimmie Åkersson is sick and he won't be avail to return back to his normal life until a few years... And why will that hurt Sverigedemokraterna? Well, it's simple. He was their only politician and he was the one person that hold the party together... They'll become a sinking rock now that their only politician is out.

Btw, Sverigedemokraterna isn't the once you should look out for since their politics wants Sweden to help other countries in their countries by sending money instead of giving them allylem in Sweden. And yes I understand that there's flaws with that logic for example if someone has a price at their head... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that Svenskarnas parti is 10 times worst then what Sverigedemokraterna could ever dream of being.
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Look, it's not that I don't know that. I'm aware of those tensions, and I was pretty sure this was a protest vote given that absolutely no one will caucus with Sweden Democrats. I had begun with the assumption that Sweden hadn't completely lost its mind. But protest votes for a party with clear, tangible ties to the Nazis to say to one's government "I would like to see tighter restrictions on social welfare initiatives for aliens who haven't been granted permanent residency status yet" are those I would consider to be very ill-advised.

Imagine if 12 US Senators and 56 US Representatives were members of a party among whose first officers were a uniformed member of the SS and an active Neo Nazi, and further that the very same party had been characteristically Fascist in nature and under those same peoples' direction as recently as about 20-30 years ago. What light would that cast the USA in? What light does it cast Sweden in?

Might I recommend the Donald Duck Party for the next protest vote? The worst you'd end up with is free liquor and wider sidewalks.
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Hmm, it seems like you two don't have the full story of what happened and why Sverigedemokraterna became as big as they currently are nor the reason why they're doomed to fail.

Let's start with the reason as to why they got big in the first place in the election last month. Sweden has a law/system (socialbidrag) that gives out money if you don't have a job. And as of right now Sweden is immigrating at a mad rate that is damaging our economy, people wouldn't have a single problem with immigration if we did something more then take people into the country and then give them money. What Sweden needs is a good immigration system where we both take in people and then educate people. Then help them into our companies... However that's not what we're doing. Infact, 60% of the people who voted for Sverigedemokraterna in this election voted for them as a protest against the other parties for not bringing up our ever growing immigration... It's accully rather sad and pathetic how scared politicians have become to be laybled as a racist/nazist in Sweden.

Reps from all (7) the big political parties said that they don't care who you vote for as long as you don't vote for Sverigedemokraterna and that's it's us 7 (as in them) against the evil Sverigedemokraterna........ And if you think about it then that's not really a reason that makes someone vote for your party since well, they never gave a reason for people to vote for them more then we will take in more people into the country.

Then here's why Sverigedemokraterna will fail, the party leader Jimmie Åkersson is sick and he won't be avail to return back to his normal life until a few years... And why will that hurt Sverigedemokraterna? Well, it's simple. He was their only politician and he was the one person that hold the party together... They'll become a sinking rock now that their only politician is out.

Btw, Sverigedemokraterna isn't the once you should look out for since their politics wants Sweden to help other countries in their countries by sending money instead of giving them allylem in Sweden. And yes I understand that there's flaws with that logic for example if someone has a price at their head... Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that Svenskarnas parti is 10 times worst then what Sverigedemokraterna could ever dream of being.



I mean, yeah.

It also seemed like you didn't know what you were talking about when you stated something random about how Turks "felt" during WW1 when they were the ones committing a mass genocide against two countries. That was a bit out there, and that's something that can offend a lot of people. I still haven't got that answer yet.

But anyway, I said I would look into this, and the reason for that is because of my concern for what's happening within the Swedish democratic party. More so for the history, how it came to be, and WHO is in it today, and what their values are. There are no resources I can find to explain as to how they keep getting the amount of seats for the election when no other party agrees to support them. I agree with the reasoning that they can (or will) eventually fail though.
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why is this getting people more pissed off than the real extent of racism? oh, because it affects you too? don't marginalize something serious by bringing up stupid stories, you find those with anything.
Posted 10/22/14

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A example is how Turkish people was treated during the first world war.


...The Turks were the ones causing mass genocide and truly horrific killings. >_>

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why is this getting people more pissed off than the real extent of racism? oh, because it affects you too? don't marginalize something serious by bringing up stupid stories, you find those with anything.


MAYBE IT DOES. Okay maybe not really. We just like to know our history and tend to duke things out, it happens.





That's what I was saying. Frustration overload
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I treat people based on how they treat me. I also treat people based on steretypes they fit. If you wear pants down at your knees then I'm probably going to associate you with gang-bangers etc... and avoid you. If you act like a prick I will treat you as one. Skin colors doesn't matter, nationality doesnt matter, it's your actions and appearance I judge you on based on my past experiences. Also, ever notice how the most racist people are often the ones crying out the loudest against racism? Mull it over for a bit.....ok im done ;-)
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