First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  Next  Last
Post Reply Why do people hate on Sword Art Online?
7017 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / F / Indianapolis, IN
Offline
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 11/22/14
Oh, man, SAO. When I started watching SAO, it was mostly because I thought my little sister might like it. I knew it was popular, so I went it with this mindset; "It's really popular, so it'll probably be a decent watch." I didn't have any high expectations because I don't believe just because something is popular means I'm going to be into it personally. But I do think because something is popular I probably won't hate it (obviously it has to have some merit to be so popular in the first place). My first thoughts on watching SAO were 'wow, it's really beautifully animated, and it's a joy to watch.'

Episode one had me nervous, right off that bat. I tried really, really, REALLY hard not to compare it to .hack, because it's not .hack, but when the villain came right in the first episode and did his little monologue I kept thinking of how rushed it felt, compared to the slow (maybe even too slow) development of .hack. But I was also trying to wrap my brain around how the show was going to work the psychology of an obviously brilliant guy who went through all this work to create the Nerve Gear/SAO but was clearly still enough of a sociopath to potentially slaughter 10,000 people. The villain here really intrigued me, but only tentatively because I was already considering that the plot was going to let me down.

OP Kirito. Most people have already said it. I get he that was a beta-tester, but was he the -only- beta-tester or something? I already dislike OPness in main characters, and Kirito really did take the cake here. Not once did it feel like he faced a real threat and overcame it. Still, I found Kirito hard to dislike as a character and OPness is not uncommon in anime, so I accepted him and moved on.

Asuna. Asuna was probably the character I liked the most other than the abandoned Klein, but that's really not saying much because none of the cast felt developed or truly organic. When it came to Asuna and Kirito's relationship, I actually liked that -- I liked that they got together early instead of spending an entire series pining, and I hope more anime does that. My problem was Asuna's development from independent female to dependent damsel, and I'm not talking about her ALO capture, which she had no control over. I'm talking about the duels and such, where instead of stepping up for herself she allowed Kirito to duel for her. If my guild leader had gone to my boyfriend and said "We'll have a duel for her" I would've been like "Bitch, please >.>". The fact that she cooks and has other feminine qualities didn't really bother me, as a lot of women learn those things. The molestation in ALO didn't bother me either, since it felt entirely probable -- only the changes in Asuna's personality from 'fearless lieutenant' to 'Kirito's girlfriend' put me off, because they it feel like a natural progression.

I called Yui right from the beginning; 'Oh, I bet she's an AI'. My roommate was like 'huh?' so I said 'I've watched a lot of .hack'. I have no problems whatsoever with SAO having a similar-ish premise as .hack, but when you're creating something with a similar premise, you have to be especially careful to make the context original. Because it was so predictable, I felt no emotion during the Yui arc.

I liked the Laughing Coffin concept, so that was a bit of a plus. However, I was seriously dubious about the amount of PKers apparently existing in SAO. These people are everyday gamers wearing their normal faces, so I find it hard to believe that many 'average joe gamers' are perfectly fine with the idea of murdering people routinely. I was hoping that some zealous leader might've corrupting them into thinking they were actually doing some kind of good, but no such luck. Normal people don't go around murdering others, so it would've made much more sense if they'd just tortured items out of players or something.

It was SAO's resolution battle that killed it for me, though. There was next to no build up to the 'final battle' -- we didn't even know it was coming. The battle itself wasn't particularly climactic, and why the hell would an obviously brilliant, sociopathic villain play fair anyway!? I had so much rage at this point that I was ready to swear off anime all together!

I could write an entire page on the amount of frustration and disappointment I had here, but I won't xD

It took me awhile to finish the anime, but I finally did. Since I felt there was obviously not going to be any realistic psychological development -- which renders the plot completely shallow -- my only interest was in the completion itself. The ALO arc was alright, and I was grateful there weren't any other crushing disappointments. Kirito's still OP, all the girls still want him, Asuna's still a damsel, and the villain is still flaky and doesn't add up to his apparent accomplishments.

Still, for some reason despite all of this, I'm watching the second season. GGO is more interesting in a way, so my hope is that the creators took a lot of feedback and incorporated some changes, but we'll see. There's a bit more evidence of psychological strain, which I like, but we'll see if it's real development or just an effort to seem deep. Still no truly strong female character who doesn't go into 'girl mode' when Kirito's around, but whatever. Kirito's still OP, for no real apparent reason, okay.

In short, I can't even wrap my brain around how the creators of SAO had so much to work with and still managed to drop the ball so hard. I'm holding my final verdict until after GGO, so until then... I'll be off enjoying the much less anger-inducing Log Horizon, which so far (I'm only on episode 4) seems to be doing far more with far less.

If you guys liked SAO, go watch .hack//QUANTUM! It's a great little standalone OVA, so familiarity with the franchise isn't necessary. It has a neat little story (though not really surprising), good pacing, and the production values are comparable to SAOs. :3
9272 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/25/14
I dunno. I didn't like .hack, maybe it had something to do with the video games being so bad. Oh well, to each their own. Log Horizon is good. The pacing is a little slow for me at times, but I enjoy it.

Kirito is going to be OP as heck until the Alicitization arc. There's a reason for that, he was one of the highest leveled characters in SAO because he was a solo player, he accidentally converted stats to ALO. And then he scrapped his stats in ALO and started to relevel from scratch before GGO. However the anime doesn't want to go over anything as boring as watching him level up from nothing.
19079 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
Kirito is a try hard Gary Stu that is the embodiment of every 14 yr old nerd's wet dream

Asuna was a good character until they made her into a generic Tsundere

Klein was the best character.

forced incest

Yui's arc was a let down

Yui becomes Airy.

the show takes itself WAAYYYYYY too seriously (especially in the secondhalf aka ALO)

Forced fanservice to pander to the perverts

somehow video game skills and dynamics apply to real life (???)

Thats why.

I'll stick with my megucas and my Ai Yo.
14233 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / USA
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
Do people really hate on SAO because it's popular???

I hate SAO for the amount of time skips and plot holes there were and the pedo-arc was poorly done. Don't get me wrong, I dislike SAO as a story and think it could have been a lot better but it was really entertaining to watch. After Reki finishes SAO, I hope he works on Accel World and that gets a season 2.

36673 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
26 / M / NYC
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
i have a love/hate relationship with SAO. i watch every week, but you can't deny all the criticisms it gets. the show started off so great and had so much potential. but when it started focusing on Kirito wanting to save everyone he came across and less on the front line battles/overall progression, i knew it wasn't going to live up to that potential. all the time skips really bothered me too. then we get this seemingly forced love story/honeymoon phase complete with an AI child and the show just became so bland. i don't need to say anything about ALO. that whole second half was just annoying. GGO felt nice in it's pacing. Kirito falls right back into his role of being OP even in a game he knows nothing about, and truthfully, his battle with Death Gun felt rather lackluster.

all in all, I think if the show had focused it's entire 1st season on the first arc, showed more of Kirito's actual progress through the game and the battles that had taken place, it would have been much much better. let us see how Kirito became so strong. and even then, as a Beta tester, they only ever got up to a certain point. by that point, all the players should be pretty much caught up and level with him on knowledge of the game. idk...i was just really disappointed in what it became after i got sucked into what it could be.
308 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M / Texas
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
It's not .hack//Sign
11764 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F / Edo
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
ehh...welll.
22734 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M / Singapore
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
i really need to watch this anime
8830 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M
Offline
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/25/14

shinn442 wrote:

i really need to watch this anime


Yeah it's really awesome!

It has awesome video game setting, cool fights, looks great, sexy chicks, badass main characters, beautifull soundtrack (and game-like, I replaced all my skyrim musics with it !) and... it has KIRITO-SAMA! who is already a sexy badass in the firs season and second season but becomes more awesome as a trap in gun gale online. Oh and he also has a harem of sexy chicks some of which get fanservice
8009 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
32 / M
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
While I have enjoyed SAO, it's impossible to deny the faults listed in this thread. The anime was really really rushed, and they missed out on so much potential story and character development. The op-ness and such, well, come on, it's typical of an anime. the main character is always op, or at the very least becomes op just in time to win.
6030 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / F / Europe
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
I love that anime, but I think It would have been great if they made episode 14 the last one.
To me they made the magic disappear with making the story so long.
18054 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
U.S.
Offline
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14
Because it's not Log Horizon.

It's the Kirito Show.
5018 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
Cause they have nothing better to do with their life then complain about something that if they so badly do not like they can just not watch it.
10060 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
18 / M / Across the Narrow...
Offline
Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/26/14

jose2190s wrote:

i have a love/hate relationship with SAO. i watch every week, but you can't deny all the criticisms it gets. the show started off so great and had so much potential. but when it started focusing on Kirito wanting to save everyone he came across and less on the front line battles/overall progression, i knew it wasn't going to live up to that potential. all the time skips really bothered me too. then we get this seemingly forced love story/honeymoon phase complete with an AI child and the show just became so bland. i don't need to say anything about ALO. that whole second half was just annoying. GGO felt nice in it's pacing. Kirito falls right back into his role of being OP even in a game he knows nothing about, and truthfully, his battle with Death Gun felt rather lackluster.

all in all, I think if the show had focused it's entire 1st season on the first arc, showed more of Kirito's actual progress through the game and the battles that had taken place, it would have been much much better. let us see how Kirito became so strong. and even then, as a Beta tester, they only ever got up to a certain point. by that point, all the players should be pretty much caught up and level with him on knowledge of the game. idk...i was just really disappointed in what it became after i got sucked into what it could be.


So yeah, I'm just going to quote this...^
1712 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / F / infront of my com...
Offline
Posted 10/25/14
when SAO was airing i would watch each episode as it aired. Right from the beginning i knew asuna was going to be my favorite character. Her introduction seemed so baddass! But she didnt really appear... Instead we get the side chicks.. who did nothing to add the main story. We get a time skipped that i felt was way out of placed. A time skip is a way to add character development but instead i felt they did it so they did not have to explain how they got to the current floor lv.

Finally asuna appears again.. and she was suppose to be this badass character but nope! She seemed week and the romance was badly done and felt forced.

The way they even got out of game i felt was a cop-out. what happened to defeated floor lvs? After every episode i felt very frustrated.

the next arc though they introduced her sister who loves kirito, and that did it for me. Instead of throwing all these girl characters at kirito couldn't they make asuna a better character and work of the development of their romance? And that one dude that wants to marry asuna when SHES IN A COMA. -_-

I think i stopped right when they got out of the first arc. I did not watch any bits of them as fairys.

I heard that SAO II is alot better than the first season... so i might check the second season out.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.