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Is it wrong that I like Heathcliff as a character? (SAO)
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Just reading through the light novels, I realized how much I respected Heathcliff. He may have done the wrong thing in trapping everyone, but he was nearly always fair and did not abuse his power more than needed. He even accepted defeat from Kirito with seemingly no ill-will. I was even a bit sad when it was revealed that he died.
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25 / M / This Dying World
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Posted 10/24/14
No.

although he could of picked better uniforms.
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47 / M / Пенсильвания, США
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Nothing wrong with liking orange alley cats.




Oh Wait, wrong Heathcliff
Posted 10/24/14
Nope. He plays a good role of an antagonist
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Of course it's wrong to like him as a character... because he was barely a character to begin with.
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Posted 10/24/14
He was a pretty cool dude. But his avatar was nowhere near as the player behind the avatar.
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No. He was the antagonist and what he did was seriously messed up, but you're right about him being more or less fair about the whole thing. It's not like he was evil.
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Posted 10/24/14
I'll just say "Yes" without some kind of reasoning just to be different. "LAWL"
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Posted 10/25/14 , edited 10/25/14
Yes. What his character is stated as being and what he actually is has too big a discrepancy.

A supposedly intelligent man creates this awesome videogame, traps hundreds of people in it, and then ruins the experience for on a random whim.

His motivations are never clearly defined or explored. Its a "cuz fun", which is ruined by ending SAO early to reward Kirito for something arbitrary and random.

Did he trap everybody in the game to play with them? That's rather neat if twisted. He may be godlike but he doesn't use it for evil god-complex means, that's fine.

But to just throw it all away like that. Its as if the writer had a page or weight limit to his Light Novel and ended it by breaking the incomplete character of Heathclif in half. Totally ruining his potential character for a rushed ending.


I just rewatched/first watched Berserk, the movie series this time.
Do you want a villain who earns both your respect and hate? Go here. The final Heathclif's fight was so rushed that the animators couldn't save it, and they never use it in flashbacks.

It's fine to respect the ideas, but a character is more than what people think of him. They're what he does and how he effects and affects others.
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Posted 10/25/14
No. Try liking Nobuyuki Sugou and see if you feel it's wrong. Plenty of reason for that.

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TheKaiserKnight wrote:

No. Try liking Nobuyuki Sugou and see if you feel it's wrong. Plenty of reason for that.



Sugou is disgusting
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yeah he was disgusting, but I have to admit I liked that Asuna got some fanservice.
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Felstalker wrote:
Its as if the writer had a page or weight limit to his Light Novel and ended it by breaking the incomplete character of Heathclif in half. Totally ruining his potential character for a rushed ending.


Actually, the SAO light novels got published after Accel World, because the first volume exceeded the page limit to apply a writing competition.
Also, in the LNs (I think in the Alicization arc) we'll get more info about Kayaba.

I have nothing against Heathcliff besides having God Mode on at all times.

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Xylrot wrote:



I have nothing against Heathcliff besides having God Mode on at all times.



Yeah my biggest problem was that he cheated at his own game...
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Posted 10/25/14

TheKaiserKnight wrote:

No. Try liking Nobuyuki Sugou and see if you feel it's wrong. Plenty of reason for that.



There are better reasons to hate whats-is-his-name-san
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