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Should smokers be allowed to make their own decisions?
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I don't mind if people smoke. I just don't want them smoking anywhere public. Also they should also be denied healthcare if they get any diseases directly related to smoking. They are just increasing the burden on the rest of us. This goes with everything though -- do not take care of yourself and you should pay the price, abuse drugs, abuse alcohol, morbid obesity, etc.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

Smoking is harmful to the users and people around them for no gain.
It makes no sense financial or otherwise to start or continue the act.
So should people that make such poor decisions be allowed to think for themselves?

previous thread got locked because mod said cleaning was impossible so here it is again.
enjoy.


If they want to kill themselves that's fine, but with a few provisions:

A. Don't take those around you down with you.

B. When your health fails you must pay for help yourself and cannot use public funding for your idiocy.

C. You are not allowed to get welfare of any kind since you obviously have plenty of money to throw down the toilet.


Same could be said for alcohol and drug abusers.



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Posted 12/8/14
you sir, kicked a really big nest of cancer bees
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DekomoriShogun wrote:

you sir, kicked a really big nest of cancer bees


Yeah, but so ho ever cares won't care for long because for their life expectancy.




I_am_DJ wrote:

Yeah, cause outlawing products or activities always works (glances at the black market)


Always works better than allowing it.
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Posted 12/10/14 , edited 12/10/14
I smoke. It's a choice I've made that I accept the potential consequences of. I wouldn't say it's a smart choice, and I couldn't really recommend it. That said; it works for me.

I try to be a courteous smoker when it's sensible. If I'm walking and there's a lot of foot traffic, I won't smoke. If I'm already smoking and I'm coming up on someone, I put my cig off to the side away from them. If I'm out with people who don't smoke, or having people over who don't smoke- I just won't smoke. I don't litter butts, either. Common courtesies.

I have some issues with the proposed denied healthcare etc., mainly because my tax dollars are still in the pot. I paid for my poison, but I also payed my dues. I can understand not being prioritized if my condition is something I brought on myself. I'm alright with that, honestly. However, I think denying help across the board for that kind of thing is an act of unadulterated elitism. It suggests that beyond my care not being as important; my dollar has less value in pocket. I'm not an uber-proud capitalist, but that's the current system, n' my money is just as green.

[edit] saw a spelling error that made me die a little inside.
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Posted 12/11/14 , edited 12/11/14
You know, in this day and age, everyone knows smoking will destroy your lungs, alcohol your liver, MDMA can cause neurotoxicity, weed can give you a psychological addiction, etc. etc. However, I feel that as long as you're an adult with informed consent, the government shouldn't get involved. Government's only concerns should regulating the things the little poor guy can't regulate and helping the little guy get enough of a foothold to succeed. However even after all that if an adult chooses to do something that harms generally only theirselves, just leave it alone. People who don't want to smoke or drink won't. People who do, will, regardless of the law.
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