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Posted 11/4/14 , edited 11/4/14
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We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.
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kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.




I believe in a lot of science, but I also definitely believe in a God and metaphysics. I've even had some phenomenal experiences related to spirituality that can't be explained from the stance of "no metaphysics exist". I know of personal accounts that are incredible, too. But I do believe in the big bang and evolution. I just think that this supreme being that is a creator made humanity come to be through things we observe in science, ala the big bang and evolution. Through natural processes, not some mythological means (like, for example, the creationists believing that man started only 6,000 years ago and that the first person was made from clay, no less).
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kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.


I really don't think this world is all that perfect. People still freeze to death in the winter and have heat strokes in the summer.

Yes, the chances are slim that life would appear on any given planet, but the chances go up dramatically when you change the problem to life appearing on at least one planet out of the total number of planets in the universe. The fact that the life here is so well suited to the environment can be attributed to the adaptability of life, which was rigorously tuned by millions of years of evolution and natural selection.

So no, I wouldn't say that I believe in coincidence, but rather that I understand statistics. It all seems very logical from my perspective.
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kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.


I thought that read 'that small fart.'

No fart is a coincidence. It is planned ass-ault . Ass Warfare. Ass-tilery.
Posted 11/4/14 , edited 11/4/14

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I really don't think this world is all that perfect. People still freeze to death in the winter and have heat strokes in the summer.

Yes, the chances are slim that life would appear on any given planet, but the chances go up dramatically when you change the problem to life appearing on at least one planet out of the total number of planets in the universe. The fact that the life here is so well suited to the environment can be attributed to the adaptability of life, which was rigorously tuned by millions of years of evolution and natural selection.

So no, I wouldn't say that I believe in coincidence, but rather that I understand statistics. It all seems very logical from my perspective.


Oh you get my point...the Earth is perfect for life, the fact that there are people living in winter or in the summer makes this a perfect world no matter how cold or how hot it gets or if a few people die from it. If the Earth was closer to the sun there would be no life...water would be boiling like volcano lava. I heard this from a NASA channel a long time ago so I'm not making it up

As for the part in bold, how easy it sounds... it might be true but how did it happen? there must be a hand that allows it to happen. "Logic: The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance with the limitations and incapacities of the human misunderstanding."


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I believe in a lot of science, but I also definitely believe in a God and metaphysics. I've even had some phenomenal experiences related to spirituality that can't be explained from the stance of "no metaphysics exist". I know of personal accounts that are incredible, too. But I do believe in the big bang and evolution. I just think that this supreme being that is a creator made humanity come to be through things we observe in science, ala the big bang and evolution. Through natural processes, not some mythological means (like, for example, the creationists believing that man started only 6,000 years ago and that the first person was made from clay, no less).


I believe in evolution too I don't know about the big bang...I meant to say that I don't believe that only the big bang created us but you have a point. Many scientists believe that there's a Greater being somewhere who created all the complexity of animals and humans are also very complex...who gave us the knowledge and the ability to be different from animals?. They still don't want to believe in the Bible though, because it's something they have not *seen* and I don't blame them...

But I like the way you think and I might consider the big bang as part of God's power. I think we will never know how we got here, in the end it's all theories and believers of God need faith...I would like to say that I also had some phenomenal experiences related to spirituality but I also know that the mind is very powerful so I don't pay much attention to the weird things that happen to me (which are a lot... )

I respect everyone's beliefs, I just can't keep quiet when I see something like that video and think "oh, we are here thanks to an explosion". For me, the more I know about this world and the universe, the more in awe I'm with God..and the more I believe in him. I also love astronomy and I remember that in my classes I was constantly in awe of God because of what I was learning and I'm not religious^^ it's just how I feel.
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Yeah like a dragonball story arc, it just goes on and on and on.
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kirika202 wrote:


staphen wrote:

I really don't think this world is all that perfect. People still freeze to death in the winter and have heat strokes in the summer.

Yes, the chances are slim that life would appear on any given planet, but the chances go up dramatically when you change the problem to life appearing on at least one planet out of the total number of planets in the universe. The fact that the life here is so well suited to the environment can be attributed to the adaptability of life, which was rigorously tuned by millions of years of evolution and natural selection.

So no, I wouldn't say that I believe in coincidence, but rather that I understand statistics. It all seems very logical from my perspective.


Oh you get my point...the Earth is perfect for life, the fact that there are people living in winter or in the summer makes this a perfect world no matter how cold or how hot it gets or if a few people die from it. If the Earth was closer to the sun there would be no life...water would be boiling like volcano lava. I heard this from a NASA channel a long time ago so I'm not making it up

As for the part in bold, how easy it sounds... it might be true but how did it happen? there must be a hand that allows it to happen. "Logic: The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance with the limitations and incapacities of the human misunderstanding."


The inner edge of the circumstellar habitable zone of our Sun has been estimated to be somewhere in the range of 0.7 AU to 0.99 AU. One of the most recent estimates puts it at 0.99 AU, which would put us dangerously close to the inner edge of the safe range at the universe's scale, but barely within 1 million miles at a human scale. It also helps that the Earth's orbit is very close to a circle. I still wouldn't really call it perfect, though. According to the same estimates, we're not very close to the outer edge of the zone (1.688 AU), and it would seem to me that the optimal orbit ought to be right in the middle of it.

On the other hand, I don't much like the cold, so I probably would've placed it close to the inner edge as well, were it up to me. ;)

As for the part in bold, there's basically no limit to the number of questions you can ask from either perspective. For instance, assuming someone did in fact have a hand in the creation of the universe, I might ask where that individual himself came from and why he exists. Are there more like him, and was there yet another individual who had a hand in the creation of his kind?

I would say that the difference in the way I think has to do with how I draw conclusions based on questions for which I do not yet have an answer. I don't assume that some other existence which can also not be explained, and which inexplicably has a will similar to my own, must have done something to make it happen. I find that way of thinking to be rather illogical.
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Posted 11/4/14 , edited 11/4/14

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kirika202 wrote:

I really don't think this world is all that perfect. People still freeze to death in the winter and have heat strokes in the summer.

Yes, the chances are slim that life would appear on any given planet, but the chances go up dramatically when you change the problem to life appearing on at least one planet out of the total number of planets in the universe. The fact that the life here is so well suited to the environment can be attributed to the adaptability of life, which was rigorously tuned by millions of years of evolution and natural selection.

So no, I wouldn't say that I believe in coincidence, but rather that I understand statistics. It all seems very logical from my perspective.



As for the part in bold, there's basically no limit to the number of questions you can ask from either perspective. For instance, assuming someone did in fact have a hand in the creation of the universe, I might ask where that individual himself came from and why he exists. Are there more like him, and was there yet another individual who had a hand in the creation of his kind?



I like a concept about the Hindu beliefs on God.* God is this 'ultimate reality' that is infinite and eternal and the source of the cosmos (so this physical universe). This cosmos manifests from this ultimate reality (similarly, in Buddhism, Nirvana is ultimate reality and the cosmos manifests from it).


*Notice I said God; singular. Yes, the Hindus believe in one supreme God. Popular misconception is that Hinduism is polytheistic. Hinduism is not truly polytheistic. I'm sure there are some writings out there that explain it well, but the gist of it is that those 'gods' and 'goddesses' are not seen as truly separate entities, but rather, sort of these 'extensions' of this one supreme God, and I've heard them described as 'divine representations' of the divine one.
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kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.


Brb going to throw some insane ideas out
There is a theory that in this place (Universe whatever) there are multiple universes, a multiverse I guess.
What if it is true and we have millions of universes. That is pretty insane. Any probability is pretty much possibly with that scale.

And about the whole god factor. I am not denying a god but he isn't some bible fairy tale god. For all we know it could be a being or beings that's technology has risen so far they created our universe.
We could have been closer to the sun. I think we'd be different humans. Maybe our skin would be harder, similar to a reptile or something.

If cells and life can life in deadly zones on earth I think cells can progress and adapt to other environments.
Yeah if at this moment the sun moves closer (a lot closer) We'd die. But if if the cells on this planet had millions of years to adapt could they?
I don't really know. I am not trying to debunk your god theory. I just like replying to things so sorry if I have offended you.
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kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.


Brb going to throw some insane ideas out
There is a theory that in this place (Universe whatever) there are multiple universes, a multiverse I guess.
What if it is true and we have millions of universes. That is pretty insane. Any probability is pretty much possibly with that scale.



If there is a multiverse, there could be a lot of universes. Millions is probably too small a number. I saw a mathematician on TV say that according to his mathematics, there are 10^10^10^7 universes. That number is one followed by 10 million zeros. I mean, I wouldn't put any stock into what that guy said, because who the heck knows how many other universes there are or if there is even a multiverse. But if there is a multiverse, I'm sure there would be a lot of universes, far beyond just millions.


By the way, to put that number into perspective, the estimate for the amount of atoms in the known universe is only 10^79 - 10^81 (in that range). One followed by either 79 zeros or 81 zeros.
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furytime wrote:


kirika202 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKVyCMQurI

We are nothing but a speck of dust in the universe. Do you think we are the only humans in the whole universe? due to this, it is hard for me to believe that we came out of an explosion...there must be a Higher being who created us with a purpose....when I see that tiny part of the universe I feel like someone...something created us and it wasn't the big bang. If you think about it, the Earth is exactly at the right distance from the sun...a little bit closer we would be like roasted chicken and a little bit far away we would be frozen all over...I also believe that nothing happens by coincidence...that small fact is not a coincidence, someone made it that way and yes, I'm talking about God.


Brb going to throw some insane ideas out
There is a theory that in this place (Universe whatever) there are multiple universes, a multiverse I guess.
What if it is true and we have millions of universes. That is pretty insane. Any probability is pretty much possibly with that scale.



If there is a multiverse, there could be a lot of universes. Millions is probably too small a number. I saw a mathematician on TV say that according to his mathematics, there are 10^10^10^7 universes. That number is one followed by 10 million zeros. I mean, I wouldn't put any stock into what that guy said, because who the heck knows how many other universes there are or if there is even a multiverse. But if there is a multiverse, I'm sure there would be a lot of universes, far beyond just millions.


By the way, to put that number into perspective, the estimate for the amount of atoms in the known universe is only 10^79 - 10^81 (in that range). One followed by either 79 zeros or 81 zeros.


Yeah I could only imagine what the "coolest" thing in the mutliverse would be. If it exists that is. Would be so mind blowing to us we probably couldn't comprehend it. Similar to how if you try to think of what was before the universe/multiverse. you get that weird feeling. At least I do.
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no way in hell all these complex galaxies,planets,suns and constellations made themselves.its too darn beautiful to be left to chance,sorry but i dont buy it
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"The universe is, like, so humangous big."

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perrandy wrote:

no way in hell all these complex galaxies,planets,suns and constellations made themselves.its too darn beautiful to be left to chance,sorry but i dont buy it


Yeah im sure a wizard did it.
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Given that this is the 'Observable Universe', yeah, we're that one dot. Right there, in the middle, 'course you need a magnifying glass to see it...
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