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The real reactions to moral issues.
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Posted 11/2/14 , edited 11/2/14
Everyone on crunchyroll is a pure heart saint who can do no evil and is always the voice of reason, everyone reading this thread will undoubtedly do the right thing is all these situations and say movie star lines while they're doing it and kiss the girl/guy at the end. I get it, everyone on crunchyroll wants to be seen a certain way. Don't take this topic as a "What would you do?" topic, but rather, discuss why real people don't react the way they say they would on a message board. In other words, what holds value to people? What compels them to act?

Would you help a girl getting attacked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOTWjIJ58E

Would you steal from a homeless man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-U_fHJkGNc&src_vid=zNOTWjIJ58E&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2657081503

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPgq__pEHg

See? The odds really aren't in our favor, now is it?

Look, I'm not here to call anybody out, but it's better to act than talk about acting. It's phrased as a question because the video made it that way. But do you know why some of those people acted and some didn't? I think I know the answer.



I'll release a better version of this topic in the daytime.

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Would you recognize a missing child?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7OHCmIsAE

This one is particularly hard, no one really looks for the lost kid/puppy, but read the paper anyway. To be honest, I'm the same way a lot of the time, I found a missing puppy only once. After watching that video, this will be on my mind the next time I see a picture of someone missing.

It literally brought a tear to my eye to see that guy check the poster and put two and two together about the child he passed.
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I hate when people say I would do this, I would do that without ever experiencing the situation, after all, our cognitive beliefs a lot of the time differ from what we do behaviourally. Would I help a girl getting attacked? Probably. Would I steal from a homeless man? I am very inclined to say I wouldn't but I don't know know for sure if there exists a possible situation in which I'd steal from a homeless man. Would I interrupt a pick pocket? Probably not. Would I recognize a child whom is missing? Probably not. To answer your question people are very complex and it often doesn't just come down to what is the morally acceptable choice on that given day but rather is the person feeling well and positive, would the other person perceive that other people would help instead of him/her (Bystander effect), would this benefit or damage the person. (Cost benefit analysis).

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This isn't exactly new news to me.
http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/10/why-we-dont-help-others-bystander.php

I wouldn't bother to help either unless I was the only one around. Doing good deeds puts me in a bad mood sometimes anyways.
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On the first paragraph, she was calling everyone out. Then, ignoring the links provided, on the next paragraph, she claims she's not calling us out.

Instead of writing this thread you should step outside and be like superman or something. A role model that never does a bad call. Never makes mistakes. Innocent to a fault. Never does things for oneself. No satisfaction nor expecting any rewards nor acknowledgements nor feelings.
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I would like to say I would help the girl, but odds are in the real situation, I wouldn't. I preach about ethics and doing the right thing, but I would most likely look out for what's best for me and avoid any possibility of physical confrontation.
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I'm too lazy to write up an explanation at the moment, so I'll just suggest reading up on the Bystander Effect, Diffusion of Responsibility and Moral Licensing.
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I get what you mean; ppl like to present themselves as heroic, chivalrous or flawfree. But oftentimes they never walk the talk.

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Having said that, I don't see how your examples is related to people bragging about themselves on forum.

Would you help a drowning person if you don't know how to swim yourself? You wouldn't, and you shouldn't because that's not being heroic, that's being stupid.

Would you help a girl surround by thugs with guns?

Some things are beyond your abilities, its not because you're a coward, its because you're smart and able to assess the situation.

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My philosophy is... only help ppl if it doesn't harm you in the process... AND if they've asked for your help.
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Posted 11/3/14 , edited 11/3/14
I ask that you desist from taking your frustrations out on the whole of CR, especially since plenty of us refrain from stigmatizing you in your How "evil" can you be? (Not for the faint of heart) thread. Anyway...




Would you help a girl getting attacked?
Should I identify it as such, I likely would. Not necessarily by intervening through physical force, however. Instead, I expect that I'd yell at the perpetrator(s). I'd be more inclined to physically engage average/small-sized men and women.

Would you steal from a homeless man?
Ordinarily, no. I'd have to be incredibly desperate, and/or physiologically unbalanced. Most likely, I'd be too preoccupied to notice/care about the homeless man and whatever he may have.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
In the off-chance that I'd notice, I probably would. Likely via a sharp word or two, but I may be more concerned with alerting the victim, not with stopping the theft directly.

Would you recognize a missing child?
I highly doubt it. I don't keep up with missing persons reports, and I hardly notice flyers.
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Living as a knight just means I follow a code of honor outside or on top of the law of the land.
In other words, I don't care about other people's moral code, I have my own.
This does not suggest I would or wouldn't help you, it means you better be someone I would want to help.
Or if I was in the mood for a side quest.
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im 6'3 and strong, but im still flesh and blood, the world expect so much of me all the time, be my body guard, back me in a fight,
no i value my life and i will assess the situation, if can one punch the guy before he could draw any weapons and he has no back up then sure ill step in

if there is a brawl or is some kind of rivalry i know there could be weapons.. then no, im not going to jail, getting stabbed and losing my life for a dumb reason.

link one : would help
link two: would not steal
link three: i will bait him out
link four: i would think i could

but im not a violent person and i have too much compassion, i don't think life should be ended so easily, could never be a solider.
everyone wanted me to play rugby and american football, but i just don't have the aggression.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

If I was in the mood for a side quest.


A la Grand theft auto: San Andreas - the bang a bitch from the coffee house mission.

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Would you help a girl getting attacked? This heavily depends on the situation for me, if shes getting attacked by someone with a gun/weapon then I would most likely call the cops.

Would you steal from a homeless man? Absolutely not.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket? Yes

Would recognize a missing child? Maybe? I would probably have had to seen the picture today and I would have to be rather close to the kid to recognize them, I don't have the best eye sight.
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aeb0717 wrote:

I ask that you desist from taking your frustrations out on the whole of CR, especially since plenty of us refrain from stigmatizing you in your How "evil" can you be? (Not for the faint of heart) thread. Anyway...




Would you help a girl getting attacked?
Should I identify it as such, I likely would. Not necessarily by intervening through physical force, however. Instead, I expect that I'd yell at the perpetrator(s). I'd be more inclined to physically engage average/small-sized men and women.

Would you steal from a homeless man?
Ordinarily, no. I'd have to be incredibly desperate, and/or physiologically unbalanced. Most likely, I'd be too preoccupied to notice/care about the homeless man and whatever he may have.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
In the off-chance that I'd notice, I probably would. Likely via a sharp word or two, but I may be more concerned with alerting the victim, not with stopping the theft directly.

Would you recognize a missing child?
I highly doubt it. I don't keep up with missing persons reports, and I hardly notice flyers.


That's funny, because I remember loads of people calling me all kinds of things, and the bystander effect was in full force, not a single person prevented "cyber bullying".

And also, you took the thread completely wrong, Crunchyroll members(like yourself) like to express how heroic they are instead of discussing the thread in and of itself. In various ways, this is a spin off of the "How evil can you be?" Thread, remember how I "let" a guy get fired?

Did you see how most people admitted the bystander effect in this very topic but castrated me for it? I'll be honest, this was, kinda sorta a way to point out many members contradictions, because they like to disdain people who are no different than themselves.

I wish there was an ignore function on Crunchyroll, because your posts are ones I rather not see.
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Magical-Soul wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:

I ask that you desist from taking your frustrations out on the whole of CR, especially since plenty of us refrain from stigmatizing you in your How "evil" can you be? (Not for the faint of heart) thread. Anyway...




Would you help a girl getting attacked?
Should I identify it as such, I likely would. Not necessarily by intervening through physical force, however. Instead, I expect that I'd yell at the perpetrator(s). I'd be more inclined to physically engage average/small-sized men and women.

Would you steal from a homeless man?
Ordinarily, no. I'd have to be incredibly desperate, and/or physiologically unbalanced. Most likely, I'd be too preoccupied to notice/care about the homeless man and whatever he may have.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
In the off-chance that I'd notice, I probably would. Likely via a sharp word or two, but I may be more concerned with alerting the victim, not with stopping the theft directly.

Would you recognize a missing child?
I highly doubt it. I don't keep up with missing persons reports, and I hardly notice flyers.


That's funny, because I remember loads of people calling me all kinds of things, and the bystander effect was in full force, not a single person prevented "cyber bullying".

And also, you took the thread completely wrong, Crunchyroll members(like yourself) like to express how heroic they are instead of discussing the thread in and of itself. In various ways, this is a spin off of the "How evil can you be?" Thread, remember how I "let" a guy get fired?

Did you see how most people admitted the bystander effect in this very topic but castrated me for it? I'll be honest, this was, kinda sorta a way to point out many members contradictions, because they like to disdain people who are no different than themselves.

I wish there was an ignore function on Crunchyroll, because your posts are ones I rather not see.


I'm not really a bystander, I tend not to read the other posts and wouldn't know.
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Would you help a girl getting attacked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOTWjIJ58E

Depends on the situation, but in most cases yes I would

Would you steal from a homeless man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-U_fHJkGNc&src_vid=zNOTWjIJ58E&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2657081503

No way in hell, no why would I do that when I have a better life? If I may even give them money.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPgq__pEHg

Nope, since I never see one happen.

Would you recognize a missing child?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7OHCmIsAE

I don't know, would you?
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