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The real reactions to moral issues.
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Posted 11/3/14

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Everyone on crunchyroll is a pure heart saint who can do no evil and is always the voice of reason, everyone reading this thread will undoubtedly do the right thing is all these situations and say movie star lines while they're doing it and kiss the girl/guy at the end. I get it, everyone on crunchyroll wants to be seen a certain way. Don't take this topic as a "What would you do?" topic, but rather, discuss why real people don't react the way they say they would on a message board. In other words, what holds value to people? What compels them to act?

Would you help a girl getting attacked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOTWjIJ58E

Would you steal from a homeless man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-U_fHJkGNc&src_vid=zNOTWjIJ58E&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2657081503

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyPgq__pEHg

See? The odds really aren't in our favor, now is it?

Look, I'm not here to call anybody out, but it's better to act than talk about acting. It's phrased as a question because the video made it that way. But do you know why some of those people acted and some didn't? I think I know the answer.



I'll release a better version of this topic in the daytime.

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Would you recognize a missing child?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7OHCmIsAE

This one is particularly hard, no one really looks for the lost kid/puppy, but read the paper anyway. To be honest, I'm the same way a lot of the time, I found a missing puppy only once. After watching that video, this will be on my mind the next time I see a picture of someone missing.

It literally brought a tear to my eye to see that guy check the poster and put two and two together about the child he passed.


I'm not sure, for what response are you looking? would you care to clarify the goal/thesis of this OP? Right now it is unclear.

Posted 11/3/14

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That's funny, because I remember loads of people calling me all kinds of things, and the bystander effect was in full force, not a single person prevented "cyber bullying".

And also, you took the thread completely wrong, Crunchyroll members(like yourself) like to express how heroic they are instead of discussing the thread in and of itself. In various ways, this is a spin off of the "How evil can you be?" Thread, remember how I "let" a guy get fired?

Did you see how most people admitted the bystander effect in this very topic but castrated me for it? I'll be honest, this was, kinda sorta a way to point out many members contradictions, because they like to disdain people who are no different than themselves.

I wish there was an ignore function on Crunchyroll, because your posts are ones I rather not see.


Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm assuming you think you're morally superior to these "other CR members" and would therefore just like to shame them for not being as great as you.

Also, don't act so offended when you talk down to people so arrogantly and someone decides to knock you off your high horse.
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I assume I'm not in that 'morally perfect' CR camp you mentioned. Which makes me feel left out. Why do you leave me out, Soul? Why do you hate me? Stop bullying me!

Would you save the little girl being attacked -
Does she have a hot, single mother/sister in my strike range? Are there hot, single women around to see my heroics? Then yes. Cripple that guy so I can eat him later, when no-one is around.

Would you steal from the homeless -
Why? They don't have anything worth stealing.

Would you stop a pickpocket -
I am the pickpocket.

Would you recognize a missing child -
Nope. Outside of my Monkey Sphere.
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Posted 11/3/14 , edited 11/3/14

Magical-Soul wrote:


That's funny, because I remember loads of people calling me all kinds of things, and the bystander effect was in full force, not a single person prevented "cyber bullying".

And also, you took the thread completely wrong, Crunchyroll members(like yourself) like to express how heroic they are instead of discussing the thread in and of itself. In various ways, this is a spin off of the "How evil can you be?" Thread, remember how I "let" a guy get fired?

Did you see how most people admitted the bystander effect in this very topic but castrated me for it? I'll be honest, this was, kinda sorta a way to point out many members contradictions, because they like to disdain people who are no different than themselves.

I wish there was an ignore function on Crunchyroll, because your posts are ones I rather not see.



http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-869643/how-evil-can-you-be-not-for-the-faint-of-heart?pg=3
Oh, sure...



How dare I!


Also, I interpreted this thread properly. You're angry about your last thread, and you're lashing out.

As for you last sentence; get over it. Or am I supposed to be enough of a heart-bleed to entertain your tantrum?
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Posted 11/3/14

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Magical-Soul wrote:


That's funny, because I remember loads of people calling me all kinds of things, and the bystander effect was in full force, not a single person prevented "cyber bullying".

And also, you took the thread completely wrong, Crunchyroll members(like yourself) like to express how heroic they are instead of discussing the thread in and of itself. In various ways, this is a spin off of the "How evil can you be?" Thread, remember how I "let" a guy get fired?

Did you see how most people admitted the bystander effect in this very topic but castrated me for it? I'll be honest, this was, kinda sorta a way to point out many members contradictions, because they like to disdain people who are no different than themselves.

I wish there was an ignore function on Crunchyroll, because your posts are ones I rather not see.



http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-869643/how-evil-can-you-be-not-for-the-faint-of-heart?pg=3
Oh, sure...



How dare I!


Also, I interpreted this thread properly. You're angry about your last thread, and you're lashing out.

As for you last sentence; get over it. Or am I supposed to be enough of a heart-bleed to entertain your tantrum?


Look, I don't even know what "heart-bleed" was supposed to mean, but I didn't actually mean what I said. I lashed out because I was indeed in a tantrum... Originally, I was gonna PM you, but it's not really a secret that I have a few screws loose.... Sorry...
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You're right. It is a problem that people don't act, either because they are too afraid to or because they are not actively acting (ie: not recognizing the missing child). Just the other day I was carefully reading a missing person's poster but now that I think about it, that was probably all I did.
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I can't guarantee I'd be of any help to anyone being attacked. When in danger a person goes to fight/freeze/flight mode. There's no telling what mode you'd end up with until danger arrives. That is why we things like fire safety drills and get the safety lecture when going on planes. Docs, soldiers, nurses and police all get emergency drills to make sure they have the best reaction to emergencies. I've also had first aid training and they say the first thing is to make sure you yourself are safe because you'll be no use to anyone if you end up a casualty too and those you're trying to help will be worse off.

I've already had experiences where I froze (no where to run then), some where I fought and one where I fled. The last one was shocking for me. I was at a park at a concert when I noticed people around looking to the right, I turned only to see someone point a gun and shoot. Well I became sprinter and hurdler one time, by running, jumping over an abandoned bike and heading to the other side of the park. People had scattered. When I deemed I was far enough I turned around to tell my friends that that had been a close one. This was the shock. They weren't next to me. Thank goodness for mobile phones. I called and asked where they were. It turned out that they were at the original spot where we'd been standing. One had froze and the other had grabbed her in a protective embrace. They were surprised how far I'd ran. I got nick named the sprinter for a while.

I wouldn't knowingly steal from a homeless person.

I have called someone out on stealing before but that'd depend on the case. It may not be safe to always do so.

Recognising a lost child is difficult because you always assume that they're with someone or that they know where they're going. You also dont' want to be mistaken for an abductor.
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If anything, I notice that some people get more angry at the people who didn't save them from the villains than at the villains themselves.
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Posted 11/3/14

Magical-Soul wrote:

Look, I don't even know what "heart-bleed" was supposed to mean, but I didn't actually mean what I said. I lashed out because I was indeed in a tantrum... Originally, I was gonna PM you, but it's not really a secret that I have a few screws loose.... Sorry...


Well... This caught me off guard, and I needed a little while to soak it in. Apology accepted, and "see you around."
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Posted 11/3/14
did an internet fight just end on a positive note?

what planet am i on?
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Would you help a girl getting attacked?
I would at least say something if I could not help out.

Would you steal from a homeless man?
I am more inclined to hold a conversation with one instead of stealing from one.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
Most likely, considering how easy it is to pick pocket someone to begin with.

Would you recognize a missing child?
I assume I would considering how observant I am.
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I'm sorry if I mistake, but are you still feeling so uneasy about that story with that guy being fired and unjust reactions? I personally didn't think you were wrong, or at least much wrong, which, given your experience, surely "passed" as okay. Whatever that man did was something not allowed, regardless of that final warning. He would not be fired if he was much good in other aspects. You taught him a lesson. It was the fact he was not treated this way earlier what really harmed him. Of course, ideally would be to act more open, but - and this, I guess, relates to this your thread subject - making decision takes time, and when you need to consider many factors, you can't expect to be ideal, not every time, especially with limited experience. If that still bugs you - it just goes to show you have soul. Go to your former work, meet your boss and tell him that you didn't warn that guy that what was not allowed all along, was "like really" not allowed, if you want to get this off your chest. You are likely to hear "I wanted to fire him anyway", still just go and tell that - you have nothing to lose there after all, right? And close this page. What else you can do? Go help that man with getting job and straightening his life? You can't do this, it's above your current capabilities. Just focus on good things, your sisters who are helping you, friends, heal your wounds and go get stronger - may be few months from now it will be your sister who needs support and you want to be of help by that time. p.s. sorry for talking like smart-pants, we are all smart and constructive when giving advises to others lol. But that's exactly what's good about it, huh? Cheers.
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Posted 11/3/14

Cheerios69 wrote:

did an internet fight just end on a positive note?

what planet am i on?


See! Crunchyrollers are pure and noble. LOL

If I'm not mistaken the point of this topic would be why we think people don't do what they know they should do in in critical situations. This tends to be more of the case when something occurs around a group of people. Pretty much everyone else's inaction informs the individual that the appropriate action is to remain inactive too. These situations with the exception of the homeless guy scenario, are generally alien, uncomfortable and confusing to most people. They might know what they're supposed to do when hypothetical scenarios are presented to them and they have time to think about it in a calm, rational state, but when they're presented with this stuff in reality where things are aren't convenient, safe, or calm and the action that you take is critical many people choose apathy out of fear not just of the danger to themselves, but also out of fear of making the wrong choice. The thing with the kid I think could be due more to most people not being very observant than hesitance.
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Would you help a girl getting attacked?
Yeah I would, but if the other person has a weapon then I wouldn't even be able to help.

Would you steal from a homeless man?
Fuck no. You would have to be insanely desperate to steal from someone homeless or just a bad person.

Would you interrupt a pick pocket?
I actually wouldn't, because it's the victim's fault they weren't good enough to notice someone pickpocketing you.
Would you recognize a missing child?
I probably wouldn't since I never see any missing child news.
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