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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14

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let's talk about something that's kinda obviously wrong-

Late term abortions

I mean, if someone doesn't want the baby then it should've been done a LONG while back. Waiting until the baby's practically ready to be born is just wrong

No... Just no




Well doctors normally do late term abortion if having the baby will be life threatening to the mother and child.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14

brookline wrote:

Thank you for your response on my forum topic on raising minimum wage to $25.00 per hr. I enjoyed reading your opinions.

I have another topic that I'd like to have your opinion on.

There are many pro life people who want laws declaring an unborn human fetus a person. As a person the fetus will get all the rights and protection as a walking talking breathing person.

There are people who are against this. I for one don't see anything wrong with this. A fetus in a woman is a person. only it is not fully developed. Well, children and teens aren't fully developed humans. they aren't fully developed until they become adults. Still they have full human rights under the law.

So why can't unborn human fetuses have complete rights as a person?


Tell me what you think.


This needs to go to extended discussion.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
I'm totally pro choice. I feel it's a womans body, she should decide what she should do with it.
On the other hand partners should take protective measures to prevent pregnancy.
Like "hello!" it's 2014, there's plan B, birth control and condoms.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14

nanikore2 wrote:

let's talk about something that's kinda obviously wrong-

Late term abortions

I mean, if someone doesn't want the baby then it should've been done a LONG while back. Waiting until the baby's practically ready to be born is just wrong

No... Just no


This! Unless the doctors say its dangerous toward the health of the women giving birth to the child.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14

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I don't like the personhood idea where a fetus is considered a person upon conception. Not only is it a horrible policy for those women, who, for whatever reason, decide to have an abortion, but for those women who have had natural miscarriages.

The latter is such a hard thing to deal with, and something I would not personally wish on anyone. Most do not understand until they experience it. But now, combined with the sadness, the guilt that comes along with wondering if it could have been prevented and the physical pain, you're going to add to that burden the notion that a woman is now a murderer?! That's absolutely sick. And before you say "miscarriages are rare", let me inform you that 50% of all pregnancies in the US end in miscarriage.


your statistics are probably feminist influenced lol trust me miscarriage (yes its very sad for the mother) only happens around 15% of the time and lately(yay science) its beean around 11% of the time. haha
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
Such a third-rail topic...

Prior to viability, I think a fetus should have human rights based on the mother's intent.

That is to say, if a mugger were to harm a pregnant woman and cause the death of the fetus it would be tried as a murder, as one would assume she intended to carry the pregnancy. If a woman elects to have an abortion it would not.

Regarding abortion.. Being male, I don't feel it's appropriate for me to attempt to make that decision for a woman or even judge the decision she makes, so I try not to.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14
No, for the same reason why you wouldn't consider a tumor a person. Because faetus and tumor are considerably similar at the start.
Thing is, it's NOT a person of any description, what it really is, in rather straight and cold way a parasitic cell growth which has the potential to become a person. Which is definitely something that should be recognised and why it shouldn't be treated as a cancer, for example.

Simplified - If you are trying to abolish rights of an actual, living person in favour of something that has the potential to be a person, you are evil.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
I would say that I would consider a fetus a living organism, but I don really think of it as a person. That would be akin to calling single cell organisms people. It also depends on what stage the fetus is in.
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Posted 11/5/14
This topic is draining my life force. Out.
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The answer to the question is irrelevant. No one should have the right to tell a woman that they can't get an abortion for any reason. It's not anyone's place to prohibit someone from seeking an abortion. It's really a matter of civil liberty.

The solution is, if you don't agree with it then don't have it for yourself or your wife/girlfriend whatever.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
No, a fetus is something that has the potential to fully develope into a person, and pre-trap law abortion regulations were very safe beforehand in the USA, tyvm. Personhood bills and trap laws are a part of a long running campaign to demonize abortion, which include spreading false medical information like abortion causes breast cancer, which was and probably still is recieving regular studies into despite resulting in "inconclusive evidence" everytime. If you exclude right-wing, data-fudging think tanks.

So, um, yeah, I'm very pro-choice.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
I don't consider them people in the very early stages. I also consider banning abortion foolhardy. There are serious health reasons when abortion is arguably necessary, including lithopedion (stone baby) and autoimmune infertility. Plus, banning abortion would result in the rise of "the old ways"; back-alley "doctors" and dangerous abortive herbs/drugs. I do, however, frown upon those who take abortion for granted.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14
Does it have consciousness?
That's really all that separates a person to lump of undeveloped flesh,really.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14
Yes.

This is probably the only hotly debated topic in which I have a solid view.
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Posted 11/5/14
This feels like something which will escalate quckly into an "Extended Discussion."
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