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Post Reply Should an unborn Fetus Be Considered A Person?
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I have very mixed feelings about this issue.
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I don't think I would consider a unborn fetus a person. It would be impossible to communicate with it in anyway from outward point of view, and it only takes on physical characteristics of a person like a clone before exiting the womb.
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Dunno.
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In the USA you can go to jail for intentionally killing a fetus but not for abortion

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1841

If the person engaging in the conduct thereby intentionally kills or attempts to kill the unborn child, that person shall instead of being punished under subparagraph (A), be punished as provided under sections 1111, 1112, and 1113 of this title for intentionally killing or attempting to kill a human being.
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((I consider them people, yes, but if they violate another's bodily autonomy the mother has the right to abort them.))
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I am against this. We have too many people on the planet already and the population is only getting bigger. We like to think that human life is sacred, but I disagree with this.
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I'm pro choice. Each case is different. I had a niece born at 25 weeks gestation who weighed 1 pound and had to spend 3 months in hospital in special baby care. She's doing fine and is now 9. Her mother never got the chance to have that pregnant big belly look.

I also know someone who had abortions and given the serious problems that person was having it was probably the best choice she made.

Then there's the tragic case I heard about in Ireland where abortion is illegal. A pregnant woman experienced some pains she went to the doc and was told the unfortunately the pregnancy will not last. She'd been looking forward to the birth of her first child. Her pains got worse. She asked for an abortion which she thought she'd get under the exceptions with medical circumstances. She was denied because they said as long as there is a foetal heart beat they have to treat it as a person even though it was just a matter of time before it died. An abortion for her then would have been controlled but leaving things to runs its course brought up more problems. This killed her so both mother and baby died. Now all that is left is the father to mourn them both. The reality is that a foetus cannot survive on its own until a certain time has passed so you really have to think about the health and welfare of the mother as a priority. As natural as pregnancy is every single woman puts her life at risk just to give birth. Since that risk is there they should be the one to choose whether they want to go through full term pregnancy and childbirth.

Oh and the statistics I got for miscarriage of known pregnancies is at 20-25% They don't have information of very early pregnancies that just seem like heavy late periods so no one recognised the pregnancies. It is said that can be anywhere from 50 -75%. These are referred to as chemical miscarriages. I have midwives in the family plus there's two who have miscarried and got information from the miscarriage association.
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Apart from rape cases i don't think abortion should be allowed, but that's just my opinion.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14
dumbest question ever.
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Posted 11/5/14

nemoskull wrote:

dumbest question ever.


Why?
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 12/26/14

MarkyD73 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:

dumbest question ever.


Why?


soemthing like a 1% chance of a stillborn, so there is a 99% chance of a live human, so a 99% chance you are ending a human life.

and if you want to go down this road, why is murder wrong? we all die anyways. if abortion is okay, then we don't we abort the elderly, or the terminaly ill.

go check out the bodies exhibit in las vegas, and tell me if you still feel the same way.

abortion is murder, then ending of a human life.

if abortion is okay becasuse its not a functioning human, then why keep people alive in a coma, as they are not funtioning human either.
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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14
As a parent with a female child who is, now, 18 and Dr. friends who work VERY HARD to keep medical access to women-

NO, a fetus is not a person. This is
Yes- to abortions. While I have never had one, I feel this should be accessible to anyone who needs it.
Yes Late term abortions, particularly because many of these are due to serious medical problems.

NO one wants to lose a child. Those who do, may not be fit or ready to be a parent. IT IS NOT AN EASY CHOICE, BUT IT SHOULD REMAIN A CHOICE. You Do not know what a woman's circumstances, violence, rape, incest, these are all every day occurrences as much as I hate to admit.

Many of them, like me, take care of a child on their own plus extended family if even available. (I was married and left by choice) Ask any male if they are willing to hang out financially through think and thin for a lifetime, for a child of theirs regardless of the relationship to the mother. A majority don't and that covers all incomes and status.

Choose what you want for yourself, have many discussions, BUT do not for any reason limit the rights of others who are living their lives as they need to.

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Posted 11/5/14 , edited 11/7/14

brookline wrote:

Thank you for your response on my forum topic on raising minimum wage to $25.00 per hr. I enjoyed reading your opinions.

I have another topic that I'd like to have your opinion on.

There are many pro life people who want laws declaring an unborn human fetus a person. As a person the fetus will get all the rights and protection as a walking talking breathing person.

There are people who are against this. I for one don't see anything wrong with this. A fetus in a woman is a person. only it is not fully developed. Well, children and teens aren't fully developed humans. they aren't fully developed until they become adults. Still they have full human rights under the law.

So why can't unborn human fetuses have complete rights as a person?


Tell me what you think.


Extremely complex question. As many others have pointed out, I think what you're trying to ask is "should abortion be legal or not?"

My answer would have to be yes, it should be. There are times when continuing with the pregnancy can put the mother at risk, so it's in her best interests to abort. Reason being it then becomes a question of whether or not you value the fetus or the mother more, and I will always go with the mother. She can always have more children, and if it's still legal / possible to get an abortion the fetus probably isn't self-aware anyway.

Similar answer to child by rape. If women do not want to carry to term a child they absolutely never asked for, they should not be forced to.

I'm pro-choice, I guess you could say. Any instance of abortion is still up to the woman, and excluding cases of "her life vs. the fetus" and child by rape, it's entirely on her conscience. It's not my place to judge whether or not their actions were right or wrong; I'm not in her situation, so I can't understand why she would do so.

To directly answer your question, I would argue unborn fetuses can't have the complete rights of a person because they aren't an independent being. Until a fetus is developed enough to survive outside the womb (the same point in development at which abortion should no longer be an option), it is 100% dependent on its mother to exist. I cannot consider any such thing an independent person, and again, I fully endorse giving women the choice to get abortions.
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Yes, I believe an unborn fetus should be considered a person.
Why isn't assisted suicide completely legalized?
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I think these sort of discussions are good to have. it proves that all of us anime lovers think about real life issues.

Great responses everyone!
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