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Why do you prefer anime over cartoons? What have you learned from Anime?
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Big animation networks, such as Disney, influences girls to be pretty only on the outside. They portray girls to be a material thing for boys to have. Such as Disney princesses, who wait for their prince charming to come and save them. Instead most females in anime are shown to be strong equal individuals.


Lol, okay. Princess Jasmine didn't need Aladdin to save her. Princess Merida never needed a prince, nor did Princess Anna nor Queen Elsa - just to mention a few. You do know that most of the Disney classics are based on fairy tales? Whilst Snow White, for instance, is kissed by the Prince at the end, that's not entirely what happened in the fairy tale. Isn't it a norm that things are ~gloryfied~ in films?

I can't get over how dumb this statement is. Disney has SEVERAL strong heroines, not all are maidens in distress. Even the Princesses that are "saved" portray a certain value.


I know the original works, I've looked them up. ALL of them. And yes, I agree that there are some Princesses that didn't need their prince charming (Ex: Elsa, Anna, Merida, Tiana, and my personal favorite Mulan ~ I don't care if she doesn't have a crown. She's a princess in my eyes ! XD) but can you deny that they just started to do this? How are women portrayed in the older Disney movies? AND I've also done my research on how Disney portrays women all over the media. I've also done research on how Disney can have a negative influence on girls.

I said this in the beginning this is a research paper so before I posted this question I already knew everything you told me.
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Posted 11/6/14 , edited 11/12/14
My responses, for what they're worth:



tl;dr I expect your class to laugh at you when you finish your "I'm a special snowflake for watching foreign cartoons" presentation.
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Posted 11/9/14 , edited 11/9/14
I don't really watch anime as an alternative to western animation. I'm happy with the western animation I grew up with. There are a variety of things I can learn from anime, but I'm more into really good or influential characters.
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Woah, you seem a little mad.

Anyways, I disagree with some of your points, specially on the music question. Some anime have an amazing soundtrack like (imo) Terror In Resonance, Evangelion 2.22, Kids On The Slope, Cowboy Bebop etc...
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The top two reasons would probably be effectiveness of animation (good animation) versus jerky movements in cartoons (some). The second reason would be the wide variety of plots and maturity levels.
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1. Not IN THEORY, no. It's just cartoons from Japan; there's nothing inherently superior or radically different about it. In terms of the actual current landscape though, the difference is pretty clear. Like, what decent cartoons have there actually been here in recent years? Korra's great. Gravity Falls looks great, although I still unfortunately have yet to actually watch it. There's a few other shows like Steven Universe that I've heard good things about but don't personally appeal to me. Everything else is just clearly kid stuff and/or terrible.

2. "Adult cartoons" are almost always purely comedy, and often not even good comedy. Stuff that tries to actually tell a story is rare here, but common in anime. Hell, even in cartoons aimed at kids, serious plots are much harder to find than they should be. Avatar/Korra just might be the only example of a good plot-centric western cartoon I can even think of, although my experience here is a bit limited.

3. I don't really give a fuck about "lessons" in fiction honestly. They're rarely if ever PROFOUND regardless of the medium, and they've definitely never CHANGED MY LIFE as far as I'm aware.

4. I'm not really sure this is still true for Disney, although I don't watch much Disney stuff so I'm not an expert here. Anime is definitely not perfect in this regard either, though. Having a superficially "strong" female character doesn't actually mean all that much if she's just a generic recycled personality who is constantly the subject of fanservice. And that's not even mentioning the fact there ARE still plenty female characters in anime who are constantly getting saved, revolve entirely around male characters, etc. (SAO, although that's hardly even the worst example out there). There is, unfortunately, still a whole lot of sexism to be found in anime. THAT SAID, I do find that anime tends to have MORE female protagonists, and likable female characters in general. That's actually probably one of the reasons it appeals to me.

5. Uh... a lot, I guess?? Anime sure loves its dumb tropes and cliches. Finding an anime that doesn't contain numerous tired "anime-isms" is actually really hard. That doesn't necessarily ruin a show for me, though. If the tropes are implemented in clever ways or everything else is really good in spite of them, I'm fine with just playing along and enjoying the show for what it is. But that comes from having watched a whole bunch of anime; that kind of stuff still might be offputting to a lot of newcomers.

6. Probably just people that know nothing about it I guess. I don't think I've ever encountered anyone who is actually remotely familiar with anime and still thinks it's all aimed at children.

7. I... wouldn't really say "most anime" has "amazing animation", but anyway. Yeah, I guess I like a lot of anime soundtracks though, and a few like Madoka Magica and Kill la Kill stand out as having REALLY GREAT soundtracks. And I've never felt inclined to listen to a cartoon's soundtrack outside of the actual show, for what that's worth.

8. Is it? I don't really have any idea why. I'm not some sort of anime industry analyst or something.

9. Just the fact that there's more genuinely entertaining and worthwhile stuff to watch, and more shows that attempt to tell a serious, compact, coherent story.

10. No idea. There's quite a few that I REALLY LIKE at this point and it would be hard to pick just one. Madoka is probably a strong contender though. Perfect soundtrack as I mentioned, solid art and animation, interesting characters, and a story that's very memorable in general if only for the effectiveness of the presentation.

11. I guess maybe I'd recommend Gurren Lagann?? That was really the first anime I watched aside from some stuff when I was a kid. It's probably a good introduction to the medium because it is PRETTY ANIME, yet it's also so overwhelmingly good that I can't imagine many people being turned away just by the anime-isms. Also it has an excellent dub, for people who don't necessarily want to jump into subbed anime right away.
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