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The Future of Anime and Manga
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Posted 11/6/14 , edited 11/6/14

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

In its current state, anime is a shell of its formal self; And that is not a compliment. Good anime (Jormungand, Black Lagoon, Paprika, Zankyou No Terror, Psycho pass) is few and far between. Currently, I believe the anime industry is facing an over-saturation of lack luster shows afraid of pushing boundaries)

We constantly have harem anime after harem anime being pushed upon us; and its sad, because that is what the fan base wants. The fan base doesn't want complex plot heavy shows, they simply want a product. That product being fan service heavy stereotypical garbage.

When I use the term "fan-base" I am specifically gearing that towards the mainly Japanese audience who seem to lap up the jello tits and pantsu shots as if it was as important as oxygen.

I think the industry (to quote miyazaki) filled with too many Otaku. and i dont mean the american's definition of Otaku, i mean the Japanese definition of Otaku.

Anime is no longer being based on realistic people, its being based on what these anti social people wish people were like. (ever girl fawning over the MC even though hes oblivious, since apparently that's a fetish in today's day and age)

I fucking LOVE anime. however, there seem to be very few studios willing to push the boundaries on what they create.


last year i suffered a serious burnout because of this. Luckily Kill La Kill was the show that re kindled my love of anime. Kill La Kill was fan service ridden, but the fan service was there to prove the point of loving your body no matter what it looks like. It was about becoming comfortable in your own skin and not covering it up with layers and layers of clothing that hide your true natural beauty. Kill la Kill was just so over the top it reminded me of all the reasons i LOVE anime.

In the future i want to see more over the top, out of the box shows.

I am so sick and tired of seeing garbage harem shows and SAO rip offs.

I want to see shows that take real life problems and address them in the anime world like Jormungand which played with the inevitable collapse of the worlds society due to war and weapons technology.

I want to see more female characters like Saber (Fate) Koko (Jormungand) Satsuki (Kill La Kill) and Mikasa (Shingeki No Kyojin) who are not just there for fan-service. I want to see female characters in anime that are capable of protecting themselves instead of pandering to the stereotypical otaku's fetish of a damsel in distress.

I want to see characters with realistic personalities and reactions to situations (all of the characters from Evangelion).


anyway, Rant over xD



Well let's explore this, shall we?

Anime isn't a big, oversaturated market of lackluster shows. The problem is that, with the internet, we have been granted access to the lower-quality garbage anime studios put out. Anime is, like anything else, an industry first; investors choose an anime that they think will do well. The biggest things right now are harem shows and, as Tomoko puts it, "garbage aimed at moe-pigs;" otaku, in other words. As long as otaku continue to be the key demographic for anime, studios will continue to put out harem shows and "garbage aimed at moe-pigs." It's kind of like how there's always a lot of new TV shows at the start of every season, but not many make it far or are very good, and the ones that do survive fall square into ruts (e.g. another medical drama that turns into just another another high-production soap opera).

In other words, we used to get only the chociest of anime, because it was all that would be financially successful outside Japan; now we can simulcast everything with subtitles, and as it turns out, most anime is not that great.

Most people don't watch shows so they can be used as analogues for real-world problems; they watch them to escape the real world. Yes, the (arguably) best shows do use fantasy as analogues for real-world problems, but these often aren't financially successful or are risky business, which is why you tend to get fewer a year than harem/moe-pig garbage.

As for what is typically termed "strong female characters" in anime, or the lack therof... well, Japan takes a more traditional approach to femininity than the West, which is why the "damsel in distress" character is more common and tolerated there. To be more specific, it's the "Yamato Nadeshiko;" a woman who is gentle in the domestic and social circle but willing to defend herself if need be. This is the otaku's ideal (if not the Japanese national ideal), which is why you don't see female characters taking action of their own accord too often.

I'm all for good, groundbreaking anime, but I'll sift it out of the harem/moe-pig garbage.
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I feel like anime might be more CGI someday, and I actually don't want that to happen. And manga would be cool if they had every page in color or somehow made it possible for the characters to move on the page, but like in a book. But that's going to happen on a computer or a tablet more likely. But I kind of agree with the fact that anime is becoming more predictable and fan service related and creativity isn't found. However with manga, it's easier to find something deeper, because some anime are totally different or not as complex as the manga they came from-- usually.
Plus manga is most of the time farther along than the anime.
Posted 11/6/14
Expect manga to come directly to your Kindle eReaders and mobile apps.

Unless, that is already a reality.
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Posted 11/6/14

AiYumega wrote:


AzazelOfNexium wrote:

In its current state, anime is a shell of its formal self;


Ehhhhhhhhh I don't agree but okay.


When I use the term "fan-base" I am specifically gearing that towards the mainly Japanese audience who seem to lap up the jello tits and pantsu shots as if it was as important as oxygen

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Who doesn't?



I want to see more female characters like Saber (Fate) Koko (Jormungand) Satsuki (Kill La Kill) and Mikasa (Shingeki No Kyojin) who are not just there for fan-service. I want to see female characters in anime that are capable of protecting themselves instead of pandering to the stereotypical otaku's fetish of a damsel in distress.


I do agree with this really. But the damsel in distress is something that originated in American media, e.g. every Marilyn Monroe movie ever.




I am pretty sure the "damsel in distress" originated with old story books stating that there is a princess in a tower and a knight must slay a dragon to save her....its older than that maybe but yeah Marilyn Monroe i think not......oh and it works both ways i have seen a lot of anime with a main male that cant do anything for himself always being protected by females -_- and then beaten up by the same females....its not comedy its annoying
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Posted 11/6/14
the future...eh.

more of harem shows and overly badass female leads, more loli's.

CG is getting to be a thing. i think the low quality of CG has more to do with manpower than anything else. as CG continues, the medium will become more user friendly and studios will get more for less man hours.

i want more sex in anime. seem like we get 12 hours to get a kiss(annoying), or sleep around and it get bloody/dark at the end(not fun to watch).

i want more middle of the road. with a lot of anime i really don't feel like the pair has a deep emotional connection. i want some intmacy, physical or otherwise.
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Posted 11/6/14
The latest episode of Shirobako explains what would happen to the animation. The 3DCG is gonna kill anime imo. I prefer drawn scenes.
Posted 11/6/14
SAO, although not HS setting, it's high school-aged.

Anime needs to move away from adolescents if they want to attract a wider age range.
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Posted 11/7/14
and then some random VR console shown up and change the future of everything
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Posted 11/7/14
Depends on how the community receives current anime and manga. Change depends on whats popular and what's not.
Posted 11/7/14

blitzkrieg01282 wrote:

[ but yeah Marilyn Monroe i think not......


Marilyn Monroe's contractual obligation was 7 years of playing the same dumb, aloof, and in trouble woman. This isn't opinion, this is a fact. It's always been that way, but she's the biggest example.
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Posted 11/7/14

AiYumega wrote:


blitzkrieg01282 wrote:

[ but yeah Marilyn Monroe i think not......


Marilyn Monroe's contractual obligation was 7 years of playing the same dumb, aloof, and in trouble woman. This isn't opinion, this is a fact. It's always been that way, but she's the biggest example.


oh I was just saying that's not where it originated that's all
Posted 11/7/14

blitzkrieg01282 wrote:


AiYumega wrote:


blitzkrieg01282 wrote:

[ but yeah Marilyn Monroe i think not......


Marilyn Monroe's contractual obligation was 7 years of playing the same dumb, aloof, and in trouble woman. This isn't opinion, this is a fact. It's always been that way, but she's the biggest example.


oh I was just saying that's not where it originated that's all


No I know. You're right too. But that era of movies and Tv is what made it what it is today.
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Posted 11/7/14

AiYumega wrote:


blitzkrieg01282 wrote:


AiYumega wrote:


blitzkrieg01282 wrote:

[ but yeah Marilyn Monroe i think not......


Marilyn Monroe's contractual obligation was 7 years of playing the same dumb, aloof, and in trouble woman. This isn't opinion, this is a fact. It's always been that way, but she's the biggest example.


oh I was just saying that's not where it originated that's all


No I know. You're right too. But that era of movies and Tv is what made it what it is today.


how do you quote only 1 piece of a post because when I " quote" a post it decides to do it all

and oh okay now I get what you mean =p

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i think the only big change will be the amount of people they can have moving around on the screen at a single time
(go look at marineford arc in one piece)
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