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Posted 12/7/14 , edited 2/11/15

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I don't see the point in comparing two different genres.


Right? It's subjective. It's like comparing sci-fi books to historical books. :b
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Again, these are demographics, not genre, which are like the ESRB ratings of manga. It's like saying rated "M" for mature is a genre. Anyway, I've never been quite a big fan of shoujo, which isn't the only demographic that contains romance or comedy. A lot of boys look away from magical girl and yaoi stuff that are often found in shoujo, then possibly feel refreshed when they see stuff like GTO, Love Hina, Tenchi Muyo! or Suzuka.

What I want, is manga that treats the whole audience as equals or a near all-inclusive way to amuse the whole crowd, but that seems like difficult art to make.
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I started reading manga at the butt end of the 1990s.

Well, shoujo stories really don't do anything for me, since most of the ones I've picked up reinforces the Hollywood stereotype that women only think about dating, marriage, & having kids. The rest of them seem to insist that a woman can only be a hero if she's a selfless extremely emotional doormat who cries like a baby at the first sign of stress & needs friends to progress because she's too mentally weak & physically frail to do anything by herself. Both are pretty weak story-wise. The BL subgenre has the best art.

Shounen tends to have an obnoxious amount of moe, fanservice, & ecchi, which to be is a cheap lure employed by bad writers, but the good ones are all about story, action, & character development, so this is my preferred genre. Shockingly, shounen tends to be far more feminist than shoujo, having the most badass heroines.

Somewhere in the middle is Jousei, which seems to be shounen-like titles aimed at women. I like these, but they're not as popular with scanlators & fansubbers.
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Posted 2/11/15 , edited 2/11/15
"What's your opinion on shonen and shojo manga?"

Less of a manga reader and more of an anime watcher, but I do have an opinion

Shounen:
- character presentation focus is through actions and personality (rather than art)
- events are more fantastical or exaggerated and settings vary widely
- worst shounen have a lame pretense (read plot/setting) and/or objectify women through cheesy Japanese ideals (personality/beauty); overdone/bad fan service?


Shoujo:
- character presentation focus is through art and personality
- events may be exaggerated but in a "extract the feels!" way; more often closer to reality, if very specific (thus also unrealistic)
- worst shoujo extrapolate their plot from the most unhealthy relationships in history


Personally I like shows that balance the lightheartedness of a shounen with the seriousness that a shoujo can bring; some action, some romance and a setting/plot that isn't quite fantasy but wouldn't be considered reality either. I watched some fate/stay night/zero recently and was pretty impressed with their presentation.

I'm not some inane 12 year-old boy, impressed by bright colors, loud noises, and disproportionate/characterless girls. So some shounen is painful to watch. I'm also not a sado-masochist of a 14 year-old girl; impressed by (and deceived by) looks alone. So some shoujo content bothers me as well.

Both have their ups and downs, but I prefer shounen overall because it's more prolific and lighthearted. And jokes are the best.
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Question: Where are jousei and seinen?
I prefer romance and comedy above all. but if I look at my manga list on MAL I think it will have a lot more shonen than shoujo.
I think the only reason I stay away from shoujo is because the artist tends to draw the perfect good looking male with no flaws.(this annoys me to no end)
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I prefer shounen over shoujo. I tried to read some of the shoujo Mangas and after some long ass chapters, I felt totally disappointed by the end. The main problem is, it is too predictable and at the end the girl ends up the main Douche in the manga. Need some variety in Shojo Mangas.
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Posted 2/14/15

Judgementwolf wrote:

Question: Where are jousei and seinen?
I prefer romance and comedy above all. but if I look at my manga list on MAL I think it will have a lot more shonen than shoujo.
I think the only reason I stay away from shoujo is because the artist tends to draw the perfect good looking male with no flaws.(this annoys me to no end)


Jousei is for women, (like in their 20's and older) and Seinen is for men (also in their 20's and older). Jousei usually kind of feels like a more mature version of Shoujo, with a LOT of romantic elements still there, but from what I've seen, Jousei is often better than Shoujo. Seinen is often dark and violent, (Beserk, Ghost in the Shell, etc.) but it can still be fluff stuff, like I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying and Yotsuba.
Anyway, most of the manga I'm reading right now (and planning on reading) are Shoujo, so I guess I prefer Shoujo. Used to despise it though...
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Very Very Very Different- also, it's completely normal for males to be into shoujou's, and vice versa.
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Posted 2/15/15 , edited 2/15/15

Judgementwolf wrote:

Question: Where are jousei and seinen?
I prefer romance and comedy above all. but if I look at my manga list on MAL I think it will have a lot more shonen than shoujo.
I think the only reason I stay away from shoujo is because the artist tends to draw the perfect good looking male with no flaws.(this annoys me to no end)


So what you're saying is that a Gary Stu character is likely to be found in most shoujo manga? if so, then I agree. I hate Gary Stu characters, especially when they try to look cool and kick ass, but are just soulless and stupid.

Where are josei and seinen? well, they're not really all that popular and accessible.
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I prefer Shonen
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Seinen masterace
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Generally I like Shounen better, because I believe the overall storyline and composition of the manga/anime are better put together. To be honest, all the shoujo I've read and watched seemed basically the same: hot guys with abs falling in love with pretty girls who have practically no personality whatsoever. A lot of feminazis complain about female characters being over sexualized in shounen, and I actually agree with that point, but you really have no taste if you're going to judge something purely based on that: the actual story is more important than the minor details. Most of the characters in shounen are also much more developed than the characters in shoujo. Many of the characters in shounen have complex personalities and histories that you can't help but feel attracted to. Most characters in shoujo are just physically attractive people you can fangirl over on Tumblr - but fangirls destroy perfectly nice shounen characters also. However, that being said, there are ridiculously annoying characters in shounen as well, for example, I personally detest Misa from Death Note, and Hinamori from Bleach. As for romance and drama, romance is basically...not there, for the main characters at least - side characters often have little romances but the main characters rarely get involved in a large-scale romantic plot - and as for drama, there's plenty of that in many shounen manga/anime, but it tends to revolve around family matters, and sometimes platonic relationships. Other than the more complicated and deeper reasons why I prefer shounen over shoujo, I pretty much just enjoy action packed blood filled stories with a touch of comedy here and there. And as for gender, while shounen is marketed towards guys, it has a very large female fanbase as well (don't believe me, check on Tumblr and get scarred for life). Also, I'm a girl myself.

Even though I generally prefer shounen, manga and anime should not be judged based on the genre, but the actual story itself. Worry less about the genre and more about what actually goes on in the manga/anime.
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