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Raise McDonald's Minimun Wage?
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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/7/14
Old, I know. But this topic came up again in a debate in my college, and would like to know your opinions.

I'm gonna keep it short.

Not too long ago the workers of McDonald's basically want their wage to become 15.00/hr apart from a minimum, (7.25-9.00 or where ever that certain restaurant stands). They want fifteen whole dollars for their minimum.

Here is an example link: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Fast-Food-Workers-to-Strike-Demand-15Hr-Wages-273920021.html

What do you think of this? I for one, am totally against it. McDonalds, first of all, is a simple entry occupation. I'm just gonna say it like it is, in my opinion. More than likely, if you work there, you know you are NOT going to settle for a lot. You can go out and find more opportunities, but you chose McDonald's. Not just McDonalds, but I figure many fast food chains are always entry level, if not, sometimes. I'm talking the average burger flipper or drive-thru attendee.

These workers do NOT deserve 15.00 weekly. That amount is a great cushion for a livable wage, no question there. But when you group that up with other companies and industries, they're living in a fairy tale. Factories here pay 11.00 or so starting out, and that's good. I work at the Disney Store, among the other retail shops, and I make 9.00 as my girlfriend works at Coach, and makes 9.50.

Also, if you want that 15.00, you gotta DESERVE it. I can't tell you how disrespectful I find some McDonalds workers. They don't even welcome you, don't even smile, very monotone, and sometimes have no eye contact. And you want 15.00/hr weekly? Oh come on now...

All in all, I disagree with this wage. I don't even get sufficient customer service from them for even a minimum wage.
Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/8/14
Uh No.
They need to earn that paycheck.
If they have kids and that's how they are supporting them they need to find a better job.

Seriously though how stupid can a human being be to get a hamburger ketchup only wrong? Lol
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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/18/14

tf2pyros wrote:

Old, I know. But this topic came up again in a debate in my college, and would like to know your opinions.

I'm gonna keep it short.

Not too long ago the workers of McDonald's basically want their wage to become 15.00/hr apart from a minimum, (7.25-9.00 or where ever that certain restaurant stands). They want fifteen whole dollars for their minimum.

Here is an example link: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Fast-Food-Workers-to-Strike-Demand-15Hr-Wages-273920021.html

What do you think of this? I for one, am totally against it. McDonalds, first of all, is a simple entry occupation. I'm just gonna say it like it is, in my opinion. More than likely, if you work there, you know you are NOT going to settle for a lot. You can go out and find more opportunities, but you chose McDonald's. Not just McDonalds, but I figure many fast food chains are always entry level, if not, sometimes. I'm talking the average burger flipper or drive-thru attendee.

These workers do NOT deserve 15.00 weekly. That amount is a great cushion for a livable wage, no question there. But when you group that up with other companies and industries, they're living in a fairy tale. Factories here pay 11.00 or so starting out, and that's good. I work at the Disney Store, among the other retail shops, and I make 9.00 as my girlfriend works at Coach, and makes 9.50.

Also, if you want that 15.00, you gotta DESERVE it. I can't tell you how disrespectful I find some McDonalds workers. They don't even welcome you, don't even smile, very monotone, and sometimes have no eye contact. And you want 15.00/hr weekly? Oh come on now...

All in all, I disagree with this wage. I don't even get sufficient customer service from them for even a minimum wage.


I find it so funny how people talk about how these McDonald workers don't deserve to earn more money. If we are gonna focus on what people DESERVE, let's talk about the wall street bankers and government cronies who stole TRILLIONS of dollars from the American workers, as a result of them tanking the economy. Many people with good jobs suddenly became unemployed and out on the street forcing them to take up crappy jobs, like McDonalds or Walmart, and yet no one speaks about a bailout for the American working class .

IMO the minimum wage debate is artificial topic and ignores the real problem, which is the overall system, where people can find themself in a situation, having to survive off of a shitty job's wage for the benefit of the elites.
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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/11/14
This is just like a thread I was reading yesterday on CR, the OP wanted the minimum wage across all jobs in America to be raised to...wait for it...$25/hr!!! But I have to totally agree with tf2pyros, minimum wage is meant as an entry level job, if you need to support a family you shouldn't work at McDonalds. And if you have a family and work at McDonalds, then you should have planned better and Social Services should take your kids.

For real though, some people need to have an understanding of economics before they just go around saying minimum wage should be increased.
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Mugen417 wrote:

I find it so funny how people talk about how these McDonald workers don't deserve to earn more money. If we are gonna focus on what people DESERVE, let's talk about the wall street bankers and government cronies who stole TRILLIONS of dollars from the American workers, as a result of them tanking the economy. Many people with good jobs suddenly became unemployed and out on the street forcing them to take up crappy jobs, like McDonalds or Walmart, and yet no one speaks about a bailout for the American working class .

IMO the minimum wage debate is artificial topic and ignores the real problem, which is the overall system, where people can find themself in a situation, having to survive off of a shitty job's wage for the benefit of the elites.


I understand your point completely.

When I say, "they don't deserve", I mean it by their attitude. When I walk into the restaurant, I want good customer service. I'd hardly get any eye contact, no welcoming, a lot of monotone talking, and attitude swings towards the customer. It is really that hard to put a smile on your face? When it boils down, you're working for a paycheck. A job is a job, and unfortunately you chose McDonald's. I don't want to be that guy, but it's real simple to go around and pick up another job app and put that paper to McDonald's back down.

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Raising to $8 or $9 would be nice, but doubling it is unacceptable. People who advocate that don't know what they are talking about; the ones who suffer are themselves. That wage remind people that those jobs don't mean to be for long term, permanent jobs ; it's for high schoolers and college students to help with their expenses. There are real jobs out there like warehouse jobs that paid more than $10/hr.

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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/8/14

"I understand your point completely.

When I say, "they don't deserve", I mean it by their attitude. When I walk into the restaurant, I want good customer service. I'd hardly get any eye contact, no welcoming, a lot of monotone talking, and attitude swings towards the customer. It is really that hard to put a smile on your face? When it boils down, you're working for a paycheck. A job is a job, and unfortunately you chose McDonald's. I don't want to be that guy, but it's real simple to go around and pick up another job app and put that paper to McDonald's back down."



Well from that perspective, wouldn't it be rational for McDonalds to raise the wages of their workers.

In other words, you get what you pay for. If you shop at a business that you know treats their employees like [email protected], then why would you expect to receive top notch service?.

Again this topic is artificial and ignores the bigger picture, but from someone who runs a business, I know if I treat my employees like sh#t, then I wouldn't rely on them to work to the best of their abilities. Instead it's just another job that gives them a paycheck to do the bare minimum, which is not the type of employees I want in my business.

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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/8/14
Hell no, If you work at McDonalds. You deserve minimum wage, dont reward lazy people
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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/8/14
are you an idoit? calling people who work for fast food chains lazy? You haven't seen the world yet, so don't bark.
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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/7/14
I don't see the problem with raising minimum wage.

By giving your workers a better pay you'll
- Increase loyalty
- Make them more willing to perform better
- More wealth to the workers means more wealth gets distributed to the economy in that particular community, which again means stores will have more income which yet again means the overall wealth in the community will increase WHICH yet again can increase the income of said workplace

I'm not going to talk numbers of how much they should be earning, because I don't live in America. But a decent minimum wage is the very least they should be given. Many people can't get better jobs, they've tried but not everyone can be a winner.

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Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/7/14

sambhav11 wrote:

are you an idoit? calling people who work for fast food chains lazy? You haven't seen the world yet, so don't bark.


I haven't once called them lazy. McDonald's is a prime-entry occupation. The customer service I get from them has me feel that, yeah, they do deserve what they make now. Making it 15.00 in America tops a lot of industries where you need a damn degree to even taste a 15.00/hr weekly pay.
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Frankly, I don't see why laborers requesting a larger share of the company's profits is so offensive when the money is clearly there.
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Cost of living is so wildly different State to State that it would make absolutely no sense for there to be a universal minimum wage for a chain like that.

You'd basically be living in the lap of luxury in Arkansas or Iowa just from working part time fast food. I'm pretty sure that the folks slaving away at manual labor in manufacturing or construction jobs would be scratching their heads a bit over that.
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Frankly, I don't see why laborers requesting a larger share of the company's profits is so offensive when the money is clearly there.


You're talking 15.00/hr weekly for a prime-entry job. As far as I know, a 15.00/hr job requires skills and possibly a degree. Entirely, and generally, working at McDonald's is really only supposed to pay for the gas for your car and help you eat throughout college. That's why fast food, (not only McDonald's), is considered an entry job.
Posted 11/7/14 , edited 11/7/14
Well, people need to live and support themselves so they can stop mooching off the government...
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