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Raise McDonald's Minimun Wage?
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Posted 11/7/14
I think McDonald's employees should be paid in packets of McDonald's hot mustard sauce. This is a valuable commodity and will grant them much success and happiness in life. I know that if McDonald's paid me something like 30 hot mustard packets/hr, I would apply for a job at my local McDonald's.


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Posted 11/8/14
Every person deserves a wage they can live on. It doesn't matter what the job is.
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Happencheese wrote:

Every person deserves a wage they can live on. It doesn't matter what the job is.


True but that's not how capitalism works. Capitalism is not about what anyone deserves, but about supply, demand, and most of all- profit.


BlueOni wrote:
I'm talking about an equitable share of the profits generated by these peoples' labor. The fact that the labor is unskilled doesn't matter. It's all about productivity and profits generated. Last I checked McDonalds is a multi-billion dollar international franchise. In fact, the company posts income exceeding one billion dollars each quarter, and is still doing so in a downturn. That's productive enough to merit giving laborers a comfortable wage, and it's possible to pay that wage while still covering the company's overhead.


I work for a corporation that generates quarterly income roughly triples that of McDonald's (...just checked). However, my engineering salary certainly in no way increases along with company profits.

Do I *think* I deserve to be paid more? LOL... Who doesn't? Everyone wants to be paid more. However, my salary is going to be basically flatline unless I work my @$$ off and get promoted to senior engineer... So what, if each of us made millions "for the company"?

Corporations aren't people. They're emotionless, lifeless, and amoral entities that have but one modus operandi- Make money for themselves and their shareholders. Yes, sometimes they engage in altruistic-appearing activities but much of it for practical reasons.
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I don't see why not if mcdonalds can afford to pay them more, if someone has been working full time at a mcdonalds for serveral years they at least should have a living wage. I know if I owned a highly successful restaurant I would pay my workers more instead of adding all profits to my paycheck.
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Posted 11/8/14

nanikore2 wrote:


Happencheese wrote:

Every person deserves a wage they can live on. It doesn't matter what the job is.


True but that's not how capitalism works. Capitalism is not about what anyone deserves, but about supply, demand, and most of all- profit.


Unfortunately yes. That said, McDonald's can certainly afford to pay more, and in many other countries, does.
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sorry op, they're gonna have to work hard like everyone else. cant mooch off the govt/corporate businesses forever (i am a hypocrite. am currently under federal aid for poverty family income)
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No one has a right to dictate to McDonalds what they pay - It is between the employer and employee to negotiate a salary. Its none of your business how much they make in profits - or for you to determine what a business does with its own lawful earnings (property).
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Happencheese wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


Happencheese wrote:

Every person deserves a wage they can live on. It doesn't matter what the job is.


True but that's not how capitalism works. Capitalism is not about what anyone deserves, but about supply, demand, and most of all- profit.


Unfortunately yes. That said, McDonald's can certainly afford to pay more, and in many other countries, does.


Corporations would pay the least that could be gotten away with. That's how they "increase shareholder value".


dougeprofile wrote:

No one has a right to dictate to McDonalds what they pay - It is between the employer and employee to negotiate a salary. Its none of your business how much they make in profits - or for you to determine what a business does with its own lawful earnings (property).


Even if it's unlawful it's STILL none of our business until some class-action lawyer shark takes up the cause LOL

Posted 11/8/14 , edited 11/8/14
that would add to the goodwill on the b/s (indirectly). it shouldn't really make the company look good but people are expecting the worst with companies like mcdonalds and this is something that they can probably feel like, "oh that wasn't so bad of them. nice company". i'd think all other competing fast food companies would then want to do so.

it's like that bad kid in class that sits at the back of the class and when he does work and behaves, the teacher feels like they should reward him, no? lol
Posted 11/8/14
As far as I'm concerned, I think that deep-fryers at fast-food joints should have a have a higher pay of maybe nine or ten dollars, at minimum. Whoever's working the fryer, for however long they do it, should have a pay boost. Fryers are very dangerous. The pay of other particularly hazardous fields normally reflect the danger, if only by a few dollars. A greenhorn electrician can start off with about as much as I suggest, and they may deal with shit like exploding panels. I find it logical for workers who deal with flesh-melting, boiling oil to have a little bit of cushion for potential accidents.
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having worked minimum wage jobs, i can say if you want to lead a lavish lifestyle.. aim higher, do not be lazy and settle for a burger job then say i want children i want a nice house.. no that's cheating

$15 an hour.. for what the skill set and mental demand does not deserve that money

only people who deserve a pay increase are miners, emergency response crews and nurses (uk)

american health workers are filthy rich apparently. heard they can charge 200k for a single surgery.. damn

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If McDonalds gets a raise to $15/hr I demand at least $20/hr.

Sorry but I only get paid $9/hr to take care of handicapped children and young adults. I feel like I deserve to make more than someone flipping burgers.
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Posted 11/8/14
I used to work at a McDonalds.

Originally, I was going to wrote an old fashioned Magical-Soul esque novel length post on the subject.

But after seeing the kind of attitudes and personalities running the show. I decided, that this would be enough.
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tf2pyros wrote:

Old, I know. But this topic came up again in a debate in my college, and would like to know your opinions.

I'm gonna keep it short.

Not too long ago the workers of McDonald's basically want their wage to become 15.00/hr apart from a minimum, (7.25-9.00 or where ever that certain restaurant stands). They want fifteen whole dollars for their minimum.

Here is an example link: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Fast-Food-Workers-to-Strike-Demand-15Hr-Wages-273920021.html

What do you think of this? I for one, am totally against it. McDonalds, first of all, is a simple entry occupation. I'm just gonna say it like it is, in my opinion. More than likely, if you work there, you know you are NOT going to settle for a lot. You can go out and find more opportunities, but you chose McDonald's. Not just McDonalds, but I figure many fast food chains are always entry level, if not, sometimes. I'm talking the average burger flipper or drive-thru attendee.

These workers do NOT deserve 15.00 weekly. That amount is a great cushion for a livable wage, no question there. But when you group that up with other companies and industries, they're living in a fairy tale. Factories here pay 11.00 or so starting out, and that's good. I work at the Disney Store, among the other retail shops, and I make 9.00 as my girlfriend works at Coach, and makes 9.50.

Also, if you want that 15.00, you gotta DESERVE it. I can't tell you how disrespectful I find some McDonalds workers. They don't even welcome you, don't even smile, very monotone, and sometimes have no eye contact. And you want 15.00/hr weekly? Oh come on now...

All in all, I disagree with this wage. I don't even get sufficient customer service from them for even a minimum wage.


Why just McDonalds? Why not minimum wage in general. If just one place raises their starting wages it's just going to become a more exclusive job. McDonalds wouldn't need to raise their minimum wage because of the fact that people that walk into their restaurants arent expecting Caviar, a glass of Merlot and fresh Lobster. People (Myself included) walk into McDonalds to buy cheap dinner when they're too lazy to cook or are broke. People who expect good customer service from poorly paid teens and pathetic adults are sadly mistaken.

If they get your order wrong just send it back and get a proper one. If you let them get away with it, they will assume they did it correctly.
If McDonalds wanted to be known for having good food for exotic or complicated palettes, they would. They're a multi-billion dollar company. They want to be known as family friendly and affordable for the working stiff. I don't know if this is exact, but a friend of mine who manages a McDonalds near my house says that it costs about 13-25 cents CAD to make a large box of fries yet they charge upwards of $3 for it. That profit margin is ASTRONOMICALLY high. This is why McDonalds wont change to become a fine dining restaurant because their cost of production is so low, their profit is SOOO high, their is a never-ending available work force, their brand is already very well estbalished, their food is not as bad as you think it is (It's pretty bad all considered but still.) and they're at the point where they have nigh infinite customers. If McDonalds were to suddenly convert to fine dining I guarantee their profits would shrivel up and die. In my opinion McDonalds is the definition of the most successful business ever, now and in the future. Regardless of how much people hate McDonalds they still chug along bringing in stellar profits. I hate McDonalds, but I still eat there once in awhile. Your experience may vary depending on the restaurant too. The McDonalds I frequent has flatscreen TV's, fireplaces, above average customer service (IN comparison to what I hear about other peoples experiences with McDonalds employees.), clean eating areas and very comfortable seating.

I work in production making $12 CAD for a small startup company I enjoy my job thoroughly as it's not hard to do, no one can take my job and I work as many hours as I want. It pays for school without breaking my back and thats all I care about.

Hell, use my opinion in your class and post what your professor thinks.
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Posted 11/8/14
I work a lot harder than a Mcdonalds worker for currently 14.97/hr. I better be getting a raise if they do.
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