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*SOME* anime fans are idiots
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Posted 11/8/14
Ignorance is everywhere, so it's understandable that it too can be found amongst Fans of Anime as well.
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Your friend does seem stupid (no offense intended). He should have been open minded about what you said.
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Posted 11/8/14

xDeadlyDollx wrote:

Don't hate on people because they're broke..


Um, the entire first season +2nd season except the latest episode of the anime we talked about is available for free on CR. This isn't a case of "I don't want to pay" or "I don't have the money" sinarue since when I told him that he can watch it for free on CR then I got the reply "pirate or nothing".
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x-Cellar_Door-x wrote:

Ignorance is everywhere, so it's understandable that it too can be found amongst Fans of Anime as well.


Unfortunately this is so true.


kiritokazumi wrote:

Your friend does seem stupid (no offense intended). He should have been open minded about what you said.


He isn't open minded about anything, according to him all sites, companies and services are shit that he doesn't directly use in any form. I don't even know why I tried to bring CR up to him.
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Posted 11/8/14

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MarlyLovesAnime wrote:

what are "illegal ways" to watch anime? i've honestly never heard of them. but it doesnt sound that nice.


There is legal and illegal ways to watch. A legal/legit streaming site like this one is when the website pays for every anime they've got on the website, thus meaning that the anime publishers and lisensors earns a profit on these sites. Where as a illegal streaming site steals content from both TV and legal streaming sites like this one and then doesn't give a single coin to the companies behind the product and in most cases then puts ads on their services so that they can earn a revenue on someone elses work.

This video explains it a bit better then me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_YK-vvFL8&list=UUzKeqmoj1dcTYVjTVkVPGlw. If you have more questions then please ask away!


Thanks ^-^
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TheOmegaForce70941

He isn't open minded about anything, according to him all sites, companies and services are shit that he doesn't directly use in any form.I don't even know why I tried to bring CR up to him.


If the individual in question isn't open minded and you already know all of his flaws, then you should have been able to foresee this outcome. Are you absolutely sure you weren't just looking for a pissing match? Are you trying to fault this person for not wanting to pay or for not using CR?

If this guy is that irritating to you then maybe you should find some new people to talk to.
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If everyone was too "broke" and everyone had the mindset of why pay when you can just rip it off and not pay then we would eventually see the demise of quality games/movies/anime/music as why bother to try hard at making quality when no one is going to pay for it? I know we all have to make a living somehow and we all have to make ends meet, but do we have to make an illegal living and enjoy ourselves by ripping other people's hard work off?

If you are too broke to afford a car, does that make it okay for you to steal one because you NEED a car in your life? I mean I used to be so broke I was actually homeless for a few years. There were times that I did steal to eat... but I always felt horrible and guilty for doing it. For me, stealing anything weighs heavily on my conscience. Obviously there are people out there that are not bothered by these kinds of things and do not consider who else they may be harming by their actions as they are far too wrapped up in what they need for themselves.
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There's only one swear I don't throw around on the internet, as it's arbitrarily deemed one of the worst, but with views like "pirate or nothing" the only word that comes to mind is c***. Even if he were to use CR as a free user, I bet he'd use ad blocker, anyway... Not to talk shit about your friend, or anything...
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I remember growing up as a kid, it was certainly a miracle to see a new VHS release of a particular anime. I still remember renting VHS copies of Slayers. Between the times I spent as a kid watching anime on VHS or if by some rare chance, on TV; to these days where anime is amazingly cheap to watch in comparison. I've done my share on both sides of legality. Granted, the only times I pirated anime were times when its current domestic distributor haven't already announced a license of a subsequent season. I've helped with timing with some fansubs in the past. Never downloaded them, hardly watched them. I always believed in supporting a domestic outlet for the growth of the anime industry.

Honestly, I envy anime fans of today to an extent that rivals Mars' Mt. Olympus on how easy it is to watch anime for free. Paying $25 for a few episodes wasn't out of the ordinary. Complaining about spending that much on half a season is something that despite multiple exposures, I still find rather surprising.It's a hell of a lot easier watching anime these days. I remember a time when $120 on the original Tenchi Muyo OVA series. It was a good deal at the time. I admit, I find myself annoyed at a good deal of kids these days complaining about how pricey
anime can be.

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Yeah, but sometimes one needs to depend on the dark side to watch shows like Hyouka, The Seven Deadly Sins or Amagi Brilliant Park. If one can get it legally, then, the right way is to watch it legally.
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anikevin wrote:

Yeah, but sometimes one needs to depend on the dark side to watch shows like Hyouka, The Seven Deadly Sins or Amagi Brilliant Park. If one can get it legally, then, the right way is to watch it legally.


That's a diff thing. If somethings not possible to get legally via VPN or in your region then it's a ok thing to do. But if you just use the darkside because it's illegal then you're just a dick.
Posted 11/8/14

globenstuff wrote:

I honestly don't care about the methods people use to watch anime.

That is just my 2 cents.



Same.

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Posted 11/8/14

TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


Raimu4 wrote:


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He sounds smart to me why the fuck would you wait a week on the CR release if you can pirate a version with better subs and in 1080P a week earlier.


... A fansub can take up to two weeks to sub something where as CR already have a stable release schedule. If you don't support the industry then you have no rights to enjoy the content provided in the industry of anime. Nor do you have any rights to say that a anime is shit since you've not invested a thing into it. The same could be said about games, movies and music


Hitsugi no chaika gets fansubbed on the day of its release

'Nor do you have any rights to say that a anime is shit since you've not invested a thing into it.
well this Justin Bieber album sure is shitty but i cant say it since i didnt pay for it .

I think im supporting the industry more by pirating every anime and buying some figurines once in a while instead of giving Crunchyroll money every month while the anime studies only recieve one or two cents of that money.


You clearly don't understand how licensing work... Crunchyroll have a net income of their ads and subscribers that they use for both bandwidth, licenses and profit. The amount of money given to a anime publisher depends on their contact between CR and them, there's no set amount. Then we also have the fact that CR have to pay to keep a series on their service and as such this means that legal streaming services are a active income for anime publishers.

You accully support the industry forward MORE by using CR compared to buying merch since they're a legit service that supports the companies and people behind anime/manga. Where as there's so much unlicensed anime and manga merch out in the wild. So in other words, if you want legit merch then research every little purchase you make.

It's always fun to disscuss stuff with someone who doesn't know jackshit of what they're talking about...


Alright then can you give me a link of the percentage a publisher will get if i buy merchandise and how much crunchyroll gives them, some statistics would be nice too.
You can check out http://myfigurecollection.net/ to check if your product is a bootleg or not.
I like having conversations with mentally handicapped too.

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Not really gonna gonna call a person like that an idiot since a lot of TV shows and anime of the past & present have been benefited from people seeing it for free for the first time. Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, unpopular anime, etc back then have really blown up to be so popular and ended up with people buying merchandise and stuff related to them. If an anime doesn't get exposure in the first place, then what matters more than that? I mean you really can't blame a person to commit paying for something when they don't even know if the anime is good. Maybe if crunchyroll has all the anime laid out, more people may end up watching "legally" However, that's not the case at all in which if you commit just watching anime legally here in crunchyroll, you actually miss out way way a lot more anime that's being streamed or being available for download. I mean I've been premium for so many years with my other account, hziekzan, continuing my premium from 2010. Along the way, I had to go outside crunchyroll just to view some good anime because quite frankly, crunchyroll had so few titles back then and even now.
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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:
things like this will one day be the demise of the industry.


What the hell? We've been doing this for about a decade! Why is it so different now?

It's not a good attitude to be thinking that way but it is a small disadvantage that legal streaming has. You must remember that not everybody has the money to pay for anime and that half the fun is talking about it to other people - which can't be done if you're a week behind.

It's the rejection of legal streaming for all the wrong reasons but it's an opinion that I understand.

But you are correct. Some anime fans are idiots. Just that those you think are idiots may not be. There is a saying that I've heard in a few doujins: "those who call people idiots are the idiots" so be careful when throwing the term around.
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