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U.S. Immigration issues
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What would you guys do about all the current illegal immigrants in the United States? Deport them all? Shut down the border? Compromise?

If I was president, I wouldn't look to make every illegal resident a US citizen. The most I would offer is permanent residency, but only to those who are in good standing with the law and can prove that they have been here for over 5 years. This would be an experimental trial for at least 5 years, maybe more. It would give the US government a chance to measure the response illegal residents have for this program. This program would not help them become US citizens. If they want to become US citizens then they have to do that on their own. The government needs to learn that they can't treat everyone like a child and have to let them be responsible for their own actions. This is what I would suggest to the US government. Politics are not my thing, so I don't know if this is a good plan or not, but I feel like this would be the best option for the foreseeable future.
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What you said sounded just like the DREAM Act, except it hasn't happened just yet.
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narutosonic330 wrote:

What you said sounded just like the DREAM Act, except it hasn't happened just yet.


I don't pay attention to politics, but if it continues like this it'll continue being a dream. This is just something I came up with while reading an immigration article.
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Posted 11/9/14
border economy will be affected if all illegals are gone. no american will do some of those jobs at that pay.

yuma, in paticular. no one in his right mind would work 12/hr for 12 hours a day, 60 hours a week, bent over in the middle of no where cutting lettuce. not to mention the getting 'dusted' when the plane gets the wrong field.....

i hear some slaughter houses have the same problem, cant pay enough to employ americans.

not that i really care either way. its not going to stop. 12 an hours, vs 1 a day in central mexico. doh!
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I live only 60 miles from the border, I would hope that they would give the border portal the tools to secure the border. The town I live in has about 200 agents during the summer months to help the border towns safe. The ones in this country already fine let them stay but when they commit a crime send them back. It's sad when the cops tell the ranchers to keep any empty buildings their not using unlock because they won't investigate if they get broken into. A check point that's about 100 miles from us has a counter that they stopped 34614 that was 2 months ago. Personally I would militarized the border fence, guard posts, the works. That's the border-side as for immigration make it easier to fill out the right forms and faster to allow the ones that want to move here to be able to move here. Took my aunt and uncle 10 yrs just to get their paperwork filled out,looked over and given the green light to move here. I know it's not 100% method but it will help reduce drugs, human trafficking, and give peace of mind to the people who live near the border. If any one has some better ideas please let me know major oil companies such as bp and shell move up north where drilling is more costly but it's safer for their employees to work.
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Posted 11/9/14

J-POP187 wrote:

I live only 60 miles from the border, I would hope that they would give the border portal the tools to secure the border. The town I live in has about 200 agents during the summer months to help the border towns safe. The ones in this country already fine let them stay but when they commit a crime send them back. It's sad when the cops tell the ranchers to keep any empty buildings their not using unlock because they won't investigate if they get broken into. A check point that's about 100 miles from us has a counter that they stopped 34614 that was 2 months ago. Personally I would militarized the border fence, guard posts, the works. That's the border-side as for immigration make it easier to fill out the right forms and faster to allow the ones that want to move here to be able to move here. Took my aunt and uncle 10 yrs just to get their paperwork filled out,looked over and given the green light to move here. I know it's not 100% method but it will help reduce drugs, human trafficking, and give peace of mind to the people who live near the border. If any one has some better ideas please let me know major oil companies such as bp and shell move up north where drilling is more costly but it's safer for their employees to work.


Since I live around 4 miles from the border(if I follow the roads), I understand where you're coming from. I would like for there to be more security on the border, since sometimes I can hear shots from Mexico. The University I attend is also in walking distance from the border. A few years back I remember hearing that shots from Mexico reached the campus building and it was on lock down for a couple of hours. The immigration process definitely needs an upgrade. I remember hearing it takes a long time, but 10 years
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also, fun fact, without immigration, the US population is slowly declining, with it, it increases.

Why not just industrialize or annex mexico? (just a half joking answer)
Posted 11/9/14
My neighborhood is over half immigrant.

Immigrant > Native

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They should have open borders, and only check for diseases and criminal records. The quota system we have is just dumb. That's my two cents in a very short manner.
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Yeah my family has always worked the oil fields and that's the main source of jobs for the town I live in, all the family pitched in and 7 thousand dollars and 1 lawyer later it sped the process up if not they probably still be in line My cousin works on the rigs and they had to abandon the rig twice since they heard gunfire coming towards them. A bullet actually hit the rig and finally his company decided to move up north to avoid the hassle of hiring security for all there locations. I used have fun going to Mexico for the weekend but now I haven't been there since I was 18.
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That sounds like what the Liberal Democrats promised us in the UK but they couldn't do it because they sold their souls to the conservatives.

Of course, I don't actually know much about how immigration affects the USA so I can't really say what I'd do without a bit of research which I can't do this late at night. The USA probably still benefits a lot from immigration.

In the UK I'd actually try and encourage immigrants to move into orbital towns rather than big cities. It's cheaper to live there and it should be easy to commute in. There are many places outside of London that people can live. I'd also create a proper border between Scotland and England so that Scotland can have looser immigration laws and hopefully use that to boost our economy - and hopefully increase the population because we could really do with a higher population. England's immigrants just need to move to places that aren't London.

It's possible that I'd do something similar in the USA but I need to know what problems people associate with immigration over there. Over here it's things like housing and jobs which would be solved by boosting towns and encouraging immigrants to set up local businesses in their local towns.
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idk it's obviously an issue, but a lot of these people are running away from some violent places. not like there's not violent places here. but the thought of sending some of the children back to these places where vicious gangs rule the roost doesn't sit well. yet what are they going to do when they get here?

idk. it's an issue that i can't really form an opinion on because i want people especially children to be safe but no where is really safe so
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TheGreatHoneyBun wrote:

What would you guys do about all the current illegal immigrants in the United States? Deport them all? Shut down the border? Compromise?

If I was president, I wouldn't look to make every illegal resident a US citizen. The most I would offer is permanent residency, but only to those who are in good standing with the law and can prove that they have been here for over 5 years. This would be an experimental trial for at least 5 years, maybe more. It would give the US government a chance to measure the response illegal residents have for this program. This program would not help them become US citizens. If they want to become US citizens then they have to do that on their own. The government needs to learn that they can't treat everyone like a child and have to let them be responsible for their own actions. This is what I would suggest to the US government. Politics are not my thing, so I don't know if this is a good plan or not, but I feel like this would be the best option for the foreseeable future.


Permanent residency leads to Citizenship.
Dislike it or not Immigrants are part of our economy 1/3 of the illegals immigrants pay their Taxes to the IRS the does not report them because
They are not law enforcers , yet this point of view that the IRS it does not matter if people came in camel of below a airplane wing, contribute to the country as any other person would do. if they approve dream act (Keep Dreaming...) those 2/3 remaining would have to pay their taxes without the ignorant fear that IRS would report them.


U.S was founded by Immigrants for Immigrants.

Regarding Mexico or Kosovo gangs before they enter to the U.S they have lave everything behind and start a new life , not like those with their origin country T/Shirt everyday, they have to forget the past and get that now this is their new home.

I have witnesses the problem in the U.S and Panama country have the same exactly problem with Colombia and Venezuela.
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J-POP187 wrote:

Yeah my family has always worked the oil fields and that's the main source of jobs for the town I live in, all the family pitched in and 7 thousand dollars and 1 lawyer later it sped the process up if not they probably still be in line My cousin works on the rigs and they had to abandon the rig twice since they heard gunfire coming towards them. A bullet actually hit the rig and finally his company decided to move up north to avoid the hassle of hiring security for all there locations. I used have fun going to Mexico for the weekend but now I haven't been there since I was 18.


I've gone to Mexico once in the past 4 years. According to my dad who goes every week sometimes it's peaceful and sometimes it's a warzone.
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aListers wrote:

That sounds like what the Liberal Democrats promised us in the UK but they couldn't do it because they sold their souls to the conservatives.

Of course, I don't actually know much about how immigration affects the USA so I can't really say what I'd do without a bit of research which I can't do this late at night. The USA probably still benefits a lot from immigration.

In the UK I'd actually try and encourage immigrants to move into orbital towns rather than big cities. It's cheaper to live there and it should be easy to commute in. There are many places outside of London that people can live. I'd also create a proper border between Scotland and England so that Scotland can have looser immigration laws and hopefully use that to boost our economy - and hopefully increase the population because we could really do with a higher population. England's immigrants just need to move to places that aren't London.

It's possible that I'd do something similar in the USA but I need to know what problems people associate with immigration over there. Over here it's things like housing and jobs which would be solved by boosting towns and encouraging immigrants to set up local businesses in their local towns.


One of the reasons I hate political parties. Governments will never get anything done of they let politics get in the way.

Two of the problems that many people complain about are that immigrants are taking away jobs from Americans and they are receiving to much government assistance.
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