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Indeed, and as NGNL went on, the series had to keep cranking up the level of deus ex machina required for Blank to win: just as Amuro eventually got a stronger Gundam, culminating in what he used in CCA. (And to which he still couldn't win without Char being in a lesser mobile suit..........)

Outside of the UC series, it's much more prevalent.


Wing, G, and Seed sukzors.

First off, Amuro didn't receive a stronger gundam until Counter Attack, which takes place 13 Years after his first Gundam dies. In a final movie that shows an ending to the character of Char AMD his rivalry with Amuro. Amuro never received upgraded Mecha to stay prevalent during his story. He came of age at the end of the one year war, the rest was more personal feud set later.

Also, Char was the one who developed that super MS, he engineered their final battle so that the mechs would be even. Amuro was a better pilot.

Additionally, the Zeong from the final battle was highly superior to the Gundam, with an escape pod, 10 finger lasers, and a god damn Psycommu system in place. That was the first time Char lost...AND HE LOST IN A SHOOT OUT AND RAPIER DUEL AS WELL!

and I don't respect Wing, Seed, and G for being poorly written carbon copies of UC Gundam.
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maxgale wrote:

Indeed, and as NGNL went on, the series had to keep cranking up the level of deus ex machina required for Blank to win: just as Amuro eventually got a stronger Gundam, culminating in what he used in CCA. (And to which he still couldn't win without Char being in a lesser mobile suit..........)

Outside of the UC series, it's much more prevalent.


Wing, G, and Seed sukzors.

First off, Amuro didn't receive a stronger gundam until Counter Attack, which takes place 13 Years after his first Gundam dies. In a final movie that shows an ending to the character of Char AMD his rivalry with Amuro. Amuro never received upgraded Mecha to stay prevalent during his story. He came of age at the end of the one year war, the rest was more personal feud set later.

Also, Char was the one who developed that super MS, he engineered their final battle so that the mechs would be even. Amuro was a better pilot.

Additionally, the Zeong from the final battle was highly superior to the Gundam, with an escape pod, 10 finger lasers, and a god damn Psycommu system in place. That was the first time Char lost...AND HE LOST IN A SHOOT OUT AND RAPIER DUEL AS WELL!

and I don't respect Wing, Seed, and G for being poorly written carbon copies of UC Gundam.


Does UC have the continual musical chairs of who is on whose side? Because that is my favorite part of Wing.
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Haruhi Suzumiya ( I think she counts doesn't she?)


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Four pages and not one mention of Lady Washu or Tsunami. I am displeased!

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Felstalker wrote:


maxgale wrote:

Indeed, and as NGNL went on, the series had to keep cranking up the level of deus ex machina required for Blank to win: just as Amuro eventually got a stronger Gundam, culminating in what he used in CCA. (And to which he still couldn't win without Char being in a lesser mobile suit..........)

Outside of the UC series, it's much more prevalent.


Wing, G, and Seed sukzors.

First off, Amuro didn't receive a stronger gundam until Counter Attack, which takes place 13 Years after his first Gundam dies. In a final movie that shows an ending to the character of Char AMD his rivalry with Amuro. Amuro never received upgraded Mecha to stay prevalent during his story. He came of age at the end of the one year war, the rest was more personal feud set later.

Also, Char was the one who developed that super MS, he engineered their final battle so that the mechs would be even. Amuro was a better pilot.

Additionally, the Zeong from the final battle was highly superior to the Gundam, with an escape pod, 10 finger lasers, and a god damn Psycommu system in place. That was the first time Char lost...AND HE LOST IN A SHOOT OUT AND RAPIER DUEL AS WELL!

and I don't respect Wing, Seed, and G for being poorly written carbon copies of UC Gundam.



I seem to recall Amuro piloting something after MSG, wasn't it a gundam? Or am I thinking of something that was just in the novels?


Aha! But the mobile suits were not equal. Even though Char designed the OS for the Gundam (the psychoframe), his "beam was weaker?!" which besides being a bit of hilarious innuendo could be argued, if taken to be fact, means that he fundamentally did not have an equal set of equipment.

And, more importantly, Char had an upgraded suit (as usual) which was still based on relatively ancient tech (in regard to hardware) whereas Amuro had a brand-spanking new mobile suit which was tailored specifically, from the ground up, to him.



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Does UC have the continual musical chairs of who is on whose side? Because that is my favorite part of Wing.



Oh yeah, that's part of what makes the original MSG great (and subsequent sequels) are the conflicted loyalties and moralities, and the evolving relationships both interpersonal and in regard to choosing sides.

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it's.... so.... true.......
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yeah i'd have to second this one


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maxgale wrote:

I seem to recall Amuro piloting something after MSG, wasn't it a gundam? Or am I thinking of something that was just in the novels?

Aha! But the mobile suits were not equal. Even though Char designed the OS for the Gundam (the psychoframe), his "beam was weaker?!" which besides being a bit of hilarious innuendo could be argued, if taken to be fact, means that he fundamentally did not have an equal set of equipment.

And, more importantly, Char had an upgraded suit (as usual) which was still based on relatively ancient tech (in regard to hardware) whereas Amuro had a brand-spanking new mobile suit which was tailored specifically, from the ground up, to him.



You're forgetting something! The Psycho Commu! The Mobile Suits by the year of Counterattack are heavily agumented by that Commu system, and Amuro is a far stronger Newtype than Char. That beam was totally Newtype-enchanced dude.

Amuro piloted a lot of lesser mobile suits, but not a Gundam or even Gundam type until he recieved the Nu in Counter

Unless we count non-Tomino supplemental material. Which we shouldn't.
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Princeblaster wrote:


Gafennec wrote:

Haruhi Suzumiya ( I think she counts doesn't she?)


^^ This


^ Same
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Haruhi is the #1 deity to me. (sorry Madoka fans, forgive me)
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Has nobody brought up Gilgamesh?

Come to think of it, lancer, berserker, caster, and rider from stay night count as well.
Not that I favor of them over truth though.
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"An atheist, a vegan, and a crossfitter walk into a bar... I only know because they told everyone within two minutes".


Also, this is awesome, I have to use this!

Sorry for the double post
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I have to go with Skuld from AH My Goddess, she a utter failure of a Goddess, but she's so adorable.
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First one that came to mind.
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