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Is corruption something mainstream!?
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Posted 11/22/14 , edited 11/22/14
Portugal woke up with breaking news, our former PM (Prime Minister), José Socrates, was arrested over an investigation into tax fraud, money laundering (millions of euros) and corruption. He was our PM 6 years until 2011. I'm not naive, of course I know this happens all over the world for years with politicians and very wealthy men, but he was a former PM and that's a first for me.

Our country is facing a big economic crisis. Taxes, bills, everything is really high so we can reach our economic goal and pay the debt, but a month ago Portugal had to spend 4.9 billion euros to rescue one of the oldest and most important bank. And when rich men, the ones who should "contribute" by paying their taxes (with ease I dare say), are trying to bail out and use every dirty scheme to get even richer makes it harder. Also, I think it's really popular nowadays to become a politician so when you get out of the political world, you magically become richer and richer. Socrates received a low income for someone who is a PM but, years later, no longer at the power, he had money to buy a house worth 2 million euros in France.

Is becoming a corrupted politician/banker/entrepreneur mainstream? Do you know any similar case with a well known politician? Is there anything to do to stop this or is this a "normal scenario" nowadays?

Bank rescue: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/04/uk-portugal-bes-cenbank-idUKKBN0G30TA20140804

Ex-PM investigation: http://www.euronews.com/2014/11/22/portugal-ex-pm-jose-socrates-held-in-corruption-probe/

PS: I see that some people don't have problems with corruption. If you share the same feeling, tell us why would you support and participate in that "business"?
Posted 11/22/14
Yeah, it's nothing new and it's prevalent everywhere. In developed societies, we have the "Corruption Committee" who monitors politicians and authority figures for corruption... but who monitors the Corruption Committee?

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Corruption in third world countries in much more open. In the first world there's corruption but people are more discreet about it.
Posted 11/22/14
i'd do all of those if i could
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Posted 11/22/14 , edited 11/23/14
Corruption is rife wherever you go. It takes many forms rather than just the obvious of recieving money from somone for something. It's also a lot more subtle in developed countries compared to less developed ones.
Posted 11/22/14
I would probably be pretty corrupt if I were in their place.
Posted 11/22/14 , edited 11/23/14
It's more mainstream than not. The small people care but those in charge mostly just see it as regular business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atxr8faVDkc
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The people who make the laws are corrupt. The people who enforce the laws are corrupt. Let's just start the rebellion already.

Posted 11/22/14
I don't know. I hate money.
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Posted 11/22/14

GayAsianBoy wrote:

Yeah, it's nothing new and it's prevalent everywhere. In developed societies, we have the "Corruption Committee" who monitors politicians and authority figures for corruption... but who monitors the Corruption Committee?


Maybe Kira!? Well that's a good way to say there's no effective way to control it or stop it.



HuastecoOtaku wrote:

Corruption in third world countries in much more open. In the first world there's corruption but people are more discreet about it.


You're right, but the problem is exactly that, a former PM was caught. Above all, a man like him should be way more discreet. I wonder if this happened in some big country what could happen? The person whom we trusted the future of our country is corrupt, let's start the revolution!
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Posted 11/22/14

gintamaaa511 wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Yeah, it's nothing new and it's prevalent everywhere. In developed societies, we have the "Corruption Committee" who monitors politicians and authority figures for corruption... but who monitors the Corruption Committee?


Maybe Kira!? Well that's a good way to say there's no effective way to control it or stop it.




But then who monitors Kira? L? N? Santa?
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It is if you turn off your console while saving......
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Posted 11/22/14

PhantomGundam wrote:


gintamaaa511 wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Yeah, it's nothing new and it's prevalent everywhere. In developed societies, we have the "Corruption Committee" who monitors politicians and authority figures for corruption... but who monitors the Corruption Committee?


Maybe Kira!? Well that's a good way to say there's no effective way to control it or stop it.




But then who monitors Kira? L? N? Santa?


Don't you trust Kira?
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Posted 11/22/14
Well, an associate (not the right word, but I'd rather not admit my tie to him) of mine contributed $80,000 and helped with get-out-the-vote initiatives in a DA election where he is. The reasons were basically A. he really liked the candidate and B. one of his lady friends (again, not the right word, but trying to maintain class) has a habit of getting DUIs monthly.
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Posted 11/22/14
I was corrupt before it was cool.
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