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There's eyewitness accounts and photo's of Darren Wilson a day or so after with a red mark on the side of his face. Why are you trying to find a way around justifying a murderer?

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370731-michael-brown-private-autopsy-report.html - Autopsy report.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370788-interview-witness-41-1.html - eyewitness acount

Michael Brown was on his knees, Wilson was standing up, and that's when he fired the deadly shots. how much more do you need to know? the more you read the more you can't possibly side with a pig. What's credible exactly? corrupt law enforcement that's linked to the courts and will always be free from punishment? honestly, fuck off.


I encourage everyone to read the two documents you cited...then read the additional witness accounts, and the officer's account. The autopsy report you provided talks about the wound to the hand, which had to be very close to the gun when the shot was fired. It also supports the officer's claim about the struggle in the vehicle. Nothing in the autopsy supports the assumption that Mr. Brown was shot while on his knees, but it does state that his head was facing downward when one bullet hit him. So he may have been falling at that point, simply nodding, or lowing his head to charge.

The eyewitness account you cite is contradicted by other eyewitness accounts. I'm curious why you believe it to be more credible than the others...is it simply because it supports the story you want or fear to be true?
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This clearly looks like a man with a swollen face, a broken eye socket and who knows how many critical injuries:

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Can't we just all get along..


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thestars201 wrote:

Can't we just all get along..


I know, right?
http://youtu.be/BCB1WcqaSFc
Posted 11/25/14

Balzack wrote:


thestars201 wrote:

Can't we just all get along..


I know, right?
http://youtu.be/BCB1WcqaSFc


Can't view the video...
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"like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him.
"LIKE IT WAS MAKING HIM MAD THAT I'M SHOOTING AT HIM."

JFC.
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PhantomGundam wrote:

This clearly looks like a man with a swollen face, a broken eye socket and who knows how many critical injuries:



You can find more photos of Officer Wilson from that examination here: http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-11-25/here-are-the-photos-of-officer-darren-wilsons-injuries/?ref=frisky

It's the kind of thing you expect to find on someone who was grappled, and supports his account of struggling with Mr. Brown. The powder burns on Brown's hand makes it clear that, when one of the shots was fired, Mr. Brown's hand was very close to the gun.
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"like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him.
"LIKE IT WAS MAKING HIM MAD THAT I'M SHOOTING AT HIM."

JFC.


First, is that guy's name really Hitler?

Second, if we're to assume Wilson wasn't lying about that part, than it's safe to say this man had no common sense at the time of the shooting. I'm sure he wouldn't like it either if somebody was shooting at him.
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So is there room to appeal the decision, or are we at the conclusion of this thing for better or worse?
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Acoleth wrote:


PhantomGundam wrote:

This clearly looks like a man with a swollen face, a broken eye socket and who knows how many critical injuries:



You can find more photos of Officer Wilson from that examination here: http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-11-25/here-are-the-photos-of-officer-darren-wilsons-injuries/?ref=frisky

It's the kind of thing you expect to find on someone who was grappled, and supports his account of struggling with Mr. Brown. The powder burns on Brown's hand makes it clear that, when one of the shots was fired, Mr. Brown's hand was very close to the gun.


It contradicts what the police said. They lied about his injuries to make it sound like Wilson's life was in danger. They said his eye socket was broken, his face was swollen, and his injuries were in terrible shape. When you look at the real photos of him just moments after the shooting, you can clearly see there's barely a scratch on him. He only has 2 minor bruses which could've easily happen when Brown was hitting him trying to get him to let go of him. There's absolutely no evidence of Wilson being assaulted. The prosecutor and the grand jury tried twisting the facts hoping that people like you would believe them. Everything they've said contradicts the physical evidence and witness testimony but the media has been leaning towards making it look like it supports Wilson's story when it actually supports Brown's story more.
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This found it's way to Crunchyroll faster than I thought it would. guess I can't say I'm surprised about it. This is a tragedy across the spectrum, and that's all I will say about it. By that, I mean the shooting death, the riots, the property destruction, all of that stuff.
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So is there room to appeal the decision, or are we at the conclusion of this thing for better or worse?


It's probably the conclusion. There's an on-going federal civil rights investigation but it's unlikely that will go anywhere. The Brown family may also file a wrongful death lawsuit at some point but I doubt that will really go anywhere either. But unlike most above posters I'm not a armchair lawyer so I really couldn't say what will happen.
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sad on all points really.
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BlueOni wrote:

So is there room to appeal the decision, or are we at the conclusion of this thing for better or worse?


It's probably the conclusion. There's an on-going federal civil rights investigation but it's unlikely that will go anywhere. The Brown family may also file a wrongful death lawsuit at some point but I doubt that will really go anywhere either. But unlike most above posters I'm not a armchair lawyer so I really couldn't say what will happen.


Indictments require simple majority to be returned IRRC. The only thing that might gain traction is a wrongful death lawsuit as civil procedures are quite different and those get very brutal and impersonal. But again, considering simple majority wasn't gained in a grand jury for even the lowest charge in the books for the situation, you're very likely right that a civil suit may not go to the end.

I think at this point, the best there is to do is respect the Brown family's wishes for peaceful protest should you disagree with the decision.

Either way, said I'm not going too far into this, so I'll cut it here.
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Posted 11/25/14 , edited 11/25/14
The grand jury didn't indict Wilson for an obvious crime because the racist pro-police prosecutor didn't want the murderer to get in trouble. His father was a police officer and was killed by a black man. He has a bias towards white cops and against black men and yet he was still allowed to be the prosecutor for this case. Smh.

Edit: turns out his entire family worked for the St. Louis police department...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/background-of-prosecutor-in-ferguson-case-has-some-suspicious-of-bias/
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