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You guys are being dramatically silly.
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You guys are being dramatically silly. It's like going to the local grocery store and taking all the samples so you can obtain a meal to eat, while using the $2.00 you have in quarters to buy a beer and going "home" to your cardboard box. Lol we get it, you want what you want, but there is a system in place just accept it and do nothing to help the situation complaining about your "woeful" life, mooch and steal off others(pirating), or instead go and make something out of what cards you are dealt with(I.e. if this show isn't worth your time unless uncensored, do not watch it until CR gets it fully uncensored version in due time, simply put one should spend that time watching another amazing show since I mean there are like 15 other simulcasts out that are IMHO exceedingly better than Terraformars.- Rage of Bahamut, Parasite, Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works, Psycho Pass 2, World Trigger, Laughing Under the Clouds, Yona of the Dawn, Log Horizon, etc).... or in the very least please critic in a manner that is mature and non-deragatory getting one's point across(which I do agree with the sentiment that we should get the uncensored version to an extent, but there are things the CR community and our neighbors cannot control, so I don't mind waiting for the paper work to go through and having negotiations to what we can and can't do with their products. Let's face it, there's only one way for this to play out as you all want- one would have to make the president of CR become the Minister of Japan and President of America at the same time creating what would be known as the 'United Nations of Japamerican' and then maybe... just maybe, we'll get all our animes for free!). On a serious note, grow up please. The show itself isn't even some ground breaking, reversal of the earth's axis, mind blowing, immaculate conception miracle of a show... it's not even big enough for us, the consumers, and CR to do anything about... essentially meaning it's not worth your complaints or negative notions. You deserve happiness, dont let stupid petty materialistic things ruin your day or a second of your life. Though people are entitled to their ignorant sentimental opinions, so if you can't help but feel powerless in this situation you'll at least still have your balls and dignity if you complain right? Unless you keep watching then you're a sell out who doesn't critic, instead you'd be a bitch for no apparent reason. So you're left with what.... Boycotting the anime? I'll pay everybody's yearly subscription if one's ignorance changes anything.


*edit for those who are lazily illiterate... meaning they won't, and continue to choose not to, educate themselves through reading sincerely but must be told everything in a simple manner getting right to the point due to they're simple mindedness and indifference towards others thought processes*-
TL;DR I think it's about time to go pull that extensively large rod out of your anus, it's starting to severely effect that so called "thought process" of yours. I happen to hear about your constipation as well, so bad you can't even speak? Only shit comes out. You're doctor also has notified me that your diagnosis has spread to your finger-tips, now spewing that shit all over your keyboard... We need to quarantine this shit now before you bitches start stinking up everything. #stoptheshit


Holy run on Batman, can you please try formatting your thoughts in an actually concise manner?

People have noted the following:

* If the show was going to be censored, CR shouldn't have bothered and picked up something else instead.
* If Warner is censoring to increase sales people will boycott it because it reflects an anti-consumer sentiment not seeing us as customers.
* People want an actual time this will be uncensored or if bait and switch was used - there's little rhyme or reason for not streaming them.
* This will push some to pirate based on the above responses. Gabe Newell said it best, piracy is a service problem.
* Those that pay for their scripts can complain to if they want - they paid for an inferior product/service.

"Just accept it" is idiocy when it comes to one's fiscal well-being including opportunity costs. I stay because I believe there's enough value in-spite of this tripe, but for others it could cause them to jump to competition or just cancel outright and go back to piracy.
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Lol.
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* If the show was going to be censored, CR shouldn't have bothered and picked up something else instead.

Passing on one show isn't going to result in CR getting another show were not going to get anyway. Other companies may overbid for shows, but most haven't had a very good track record of sticking around.

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This is a winded reply so:

tl;dr - I'm heavily pro-consumer and free speech for the purpose of criticism.


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Lol I might add I don't have concise manners of thoughts, you'd notice this if you stepped within that little head of mine... or my room, I'm just unorganized, sorry if it causes you any offense. Honestly though, everything you said could be looked at in a positive less pessimistic light it's almost pathetic. Possibly it was supposed to be uncensored, until last minute change of studios and broadcasting companies and now CR can't show the uncensored version, so I assume due to it's hype from the OVA all over they didn't want to take away a show everybody was "hyped out for" due to petty censoring if it wasn't going to ruin the show thus clearly went with said gamble, but it didn't pay off? How can they know?


Nice edit there sparky. I honestly don't care about terraformars that much as it didn't strike me as interesting and I could easily wait for the non-time locked uncensored release should they get it (the reason I dropped in here was for a hopefully dated confirmation). Nonetheless I believe in defending the the right for individuals to express criticism.

Speculation of the circumstances is irrelevant, we just know what we currently have access to is not what was expected in terms of presentation.


Are you defending people who can't even give them the benefit of the doubt because you pay them 1.75 a week?


Considering how long it took CR to upgrade their CDN when a good many users were having substantial issues streaming even SD material and made numerous excuses during that time (including me) . . . yes. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.


Damn. It's even a very random freak occurrence from the 3 years almost 4 I have been here, yet people are treating it like they constantly provide "incomplete" animes and don't allow its CR premium users to watch 99% of their animes on time, HD, subbed, and most importantly "the way it was intended to be shown" aka uncensored.


I've had multiple hiccups. There's been a handful of times where subs weren't actually done properly, corrupted audio has made it to release a few as well, they experienced numerous problems due to a shit Flash player (supposedly), and months of CDN issues that only allowed access via certain devices if you didn't want it to stutter and freeze. Throw in issues with content like this and some people are bound to form a big dose of skepticism when crunchy says they're doing something.

I like a lot of what crunchy does when they do it right, but they also do make mistakes that may give someone pause.


Then you claim another assumption that what, they could obtain any other anime if not for Terraformars once again I clearly comprehend your lack of business savvy and knowledge of legal rights. Dropping a hyped out series for an empty slot or a half assed show would be and is ridiculously idiotic.


It frees up resources which could possibly be better spent elsewhere, whether it be expansion of CDN capacity, bank rolled for future use on something not neutered, or another potential series if available.

Dropping something that's neutered and not something the customers want makes sense. When they actually get the fixed versions up then it may be worthwhile . . . if the customer base hasn't gone elsewhere before then. And before you scream that piracy is wrong, etc, it doesn't matter to my point - it's real competition that media providers have to compete with in some fashion. This is why Gabe views piracy as a service concern and many stopped pirating after they got Steam out the door. The service is great, games are affordable, etc.

The second availability becomes an issue piracy increases. Game of Thrones in AUS, Netflix when introduced dramatically killed piracy, Crunchyroll has made a relatively sized dent in piracy. The second issues arise though people are quick to hit the next alternative.


The fact that it's all speculation and yet everybody is taking up negative assumptions is obnoxiously pessimistic. You're incorrect in saying you aren't getting what you payed for, you're paying for continuos content, not specific sir.


It's funny you wish to split hairs here, but call copyright infringement theft . . . ho-hum. I've already said we're paying for a service, you may wish to polish up on your reading comprehension. The reality is the service is not living up to the expectations of some and as such they have the right to criticize it if they're paying money for it (the service).


Also CR may not have an explicit "time" due to Warner Japan having an incredibly stern attitude and creating many difficulties regarding terms and conditions, thus resulting in a manner of negotiations that are still under way for the future of our content leading to a agreeable "limited time use for premium members"


And one should feel sorry for CR why? They chose who to deal with. Equally, one shouldn't boycott Warner why? If they are wishing to act like absolute wankers to the community it shouldn't be surprising they reject the product.


not to mention they're clearly indifferent towards CR community and what they view, hence they want us to buy the DVD/BR and not a CR subscription


The fact that they may wish to use us as collateral means I will simply not be purchasing their product. Before you say "like you would" or some other snark realize I have copies of Madoka, Bakemonogatari, and Nisemonogatari BDs sitting on my shelf that I purchased after watching them on CR. I'm sure you know how much Aniplex likes raking us over the coals in terms of cost and I still purchased them after viewing them on CR. If ani pulled this crap they would still be sitting in a rightstuf warehouse.


once again, if CR apparently takes that many consumers away from them, why would they not tease us?


What was this about assumptions and pessimism, and why do you think one can't be critical of this if true?

Why you don't tease your customer base in petty negotiations like this is it pisses off the end-user and may effect ability to negotiate terms in the future.


Guess you've never played a beta test.


I've never paid for a beta test - that's the key distinction. Once again though, you act like it's me that has a major issue - I don't. I just believe people should be free to criticize and praise what they want.


Lol you're right we should just give them the whole game free for a few years cause that's totally rational for our product. C'mon man use your common sense


For someone asking for reason you keep espousing quite a bit of nonsense.


Frankly, it makes all seems quite sensible to me from a business-legal standpoint.


If your goal is to get the customer base pissed at you, sure.


Also no company will advocate a product coming "soon" if it won't be there until 5 years later


HAHAHA, oh, that's a good one. There's tons of vaporware, contracts that fall through, movies that get halted, etc.

Is it likely we'll get it? Yes. That doesn't mean anyone has to like how the situation is handled - people are free to their opinions, even people like you.


my point being we'll be getting the uncensored shortly, is that not enough?


To some people? No, and that's their decision to make - not yours.


Oh yeah according to people such as yourself on here, we pay $1.75 a week each month to know whether or not they will get their uncensored version of terraformars in 4 months or 5? How incredibly petty.


You act like good customer service is dependent upon how much we pay. They have priced their services, it's their responsibility to provide good customer services within those parameters or put up with negative feedback. Pretty simple concept.


If the fact of the matter is that you think your entitled to watching the uncensored version now when there are clear legal formalities they are going through with terms and conditions that CR must follow is stupefying. So I digress this is pointless and silly, the whole dramatic "not getting what you payed for" is ridiculous and pessimistic.


CR has made their own bed - I believe one should be held accountable for their own actions.


It's just sad to see people take such a "service" for granted merely because they are throwing that service feeble amounts of money.


It's not up to you to determine what is "feeble" for an individual. Equally CR chose their pricing structure, treating CR like they're something to be worshiped for existing is stupid.


It's like money takes the personality out of everything.


Funny, when it's CR and Warner it's "just business" and makes total sense from a business and legal standpoint. If the consumer has an issue with it though? Well bugger off! What sort of mental gymnastic training have you been taking?


However I totally think everybody complaining about obvious petty matters(Not trying to belittle, but when I say petty it's because it's been stated that at one point in time we WILL be getting the uncensored version therefore this is entirely irrelevant or rather a matter of "I want to eat my halloween candy now" or "can't I open all the presents of Christmas eve instead? I simply cannot wait"- trust me CR hears you and most likely fighting for your immediate wants)


Yeah, except you have to take CRs word for it. Considering I got the run around for two months as did quite a few others when their CDNs were saturated I don't take their word for much unless there's a proposed date.. They blamed browsers, their flash player, and finally after an extended period of time upgraded the CDNs - $16 for two months of sub-HD streams isn't a lot, but it surely didn't give me the warm fuzzies you're asking for ($100 all-access in case the price is throwing you off). In case you didn't know, I consider that a major problem and they advertised it as being fixed "soon". If taking two months to resolve core product issues for numerous customers is "soon" (and for others it was much longer, to the tune of near half a year) then I hate to see what they consider "soon" for a non-priority issue.


would be warranted in their complaints if it weren't for the terms and conditions they clearly did not read.


No-one besides you is speaking of the legality or contract. They are speaking that their current service is inferior to what was expected as a customer. Legality and ethics can vary greatly.


Once again this clearly states that they do not have the licenses to the uncensored version fully, this is clear implications with a limited time usage, thus due to negative notions and implications they deemed it necessary to push even for limited rights for now due to peoples sense of entitlement.


[citation needed]

Maybe they just suck at contract negotiation and got f'd by Warner? Speculation doesn't matter though I think we all believe the problem lies between Warner and CR.


As you read they can shut the entire site down, but hey at least they aren't stealing people's money they chose and continue to choose to invest into them without being forced or pressured into it anymore then, right?


Once again, legal and ethical are not the same. Please learn this early on in life.


I guess I don't feel bad for people who can't take responsibility. As you said, there is an ultimatum and I chose that I'd rather have a subscription and not be able to watch Terraformars uncensored then pirate anime, cancel my subscription, or boycott it HOWEVE that was my decision thus do you see me complaining?


People have the right to express their opinion, stop playing thought/tone police. Having a negative opinion on a situation and being able to express it is part of what makes us human.


You made a decision, stop complaining was my point HENCE accepting your decisions in life("accept it" meaning you have the ability to make choices right? So make one and accept it's repercussions without being a bitch.


Accepting and criticizing are not always mutually exclusive. Many people accept that their only ISP in town is Comcast for example, that doesn't mean they can't criticize it.


Can't stand people who are unable to appreciate everything else in life and must not only focus on the one flaw, but allow it somehow to represent the whole?


I've already said I'm still a member in-spite of the issues have I not? If the only thing I cared about was Terra I would have unsubbed.


So I probably am coming across quite impersonal, but it's a business that was impersonal to begin with so stop the sentimental crap... This has happened one time in all my years here, so sad seeing these posts and threads.


"It's business", but "stop being petty". "Stop the sentimental crap" but "appreciate everything else".

You make one sentence and directly contradict it. If it's "just business" then the complaints levied are warranted as it's consumers doing business with CR.


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zinjashike wrote:

* If the show was going to be censored, CR shouldn't have bothered and picked up something else instead.

Passing on one show isn't going to result in CR getting another show were not going to get anyway. Other companies may overbid for shows, but most haven't had a very good track record of sticking around.


Maybe, maybe not - it's only one of the arguments others have presented. I'd argue it could go into other areas like expanding features, towards the CDNs, etc. - I just dislike people trying to tone police and shout down others.
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"I guess I'm the irrelevant one who looks down upon them"- I think this sums up my own thoughts. I never once thought people weren't warranted in their critical responses, but maybe could be a little more productive with said responses- literally that was my only point I wanted to make. I don't understand why I go on a tangent, lol. Also my bad, I generalized and spoke what other's ideology insisted, so the "inconsistency" is when it comes to differentiating when I am being sarcastic, or not. Anyways I seriously did not intend to put that many damn "yous" in my post, once again this was due to my over generalization of things, almost coming across as if I was accusing you. Sorry about that dude. I don't think and approve of "just business" methods, as I stated I just think I misunderstood you, since I thought that was your implications of why the situation should be revised and "fixed", and I was attempting to contrast that in an opposite manner. To be blunt, I actually agree with everything you had said in both posts... I believe that I simply misunderstood your point of responding to me, which was clearly brought out in the latter post of yours, so I now understand what that point was. *By the way totally off beat here- you seriously got a great way of wording yourself man. Do you happen to write, or do journalism?* Though in it's entirety this is a situation that is subjective and I fully understood that, however I do indeed determine what is and isn't feeble/good/bad/heavy/light/dark/grey/evil/good/truth/beyond/within/out and so on in my own life, not others. I won't ever force others to adhere to said notions of mine, but I may explicitly express them.



TL;DR Fair enough man, your point is completely sound and valid.
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1) Uncensored content else than country of origin they will not allow
2) They censor for marketing purposes. If you missed 1-3 .. well too bad , it will not re-apear in CR for a while... be creative ;)
3) if you miss this oportunity ... again be creative... but it still sucks , CR has to find a way to get uncensored content ... just like Parasite if they censor that we are screwweeedd!!!
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Darn... I missed the first few uncensored episodes. Hopefully we'll get all the episodes uncensored in the future.
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is it called simulcast in crunchy for the 4-7 uncensored?
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Anyways I seriously did not intend to put that many damn "yous" in my post, once again this was due to my over generalization of things, almost coming across as if I was accusing you. Sorry about that dude.


I should apologize as well, I realize my tone was a lot sharper than it should have been. It was ~4AM and I wasn't able to sleep and I can get a bit more mean in my replies.


*By the way totally off beat here- you seriously got a great way of wording yourself man. Do you happen to write, or do journalism?*


No, but I learned how to debate very early from some really intelligent guys in an Australian videogame forum. Not wording one's self properly would have you made quite the fool. Engage, learn, revise, etc. Unfortunately I also picked up quite a mean tone in the processes as I learned insults != ad-hominem and they were used aplenty which I keep needing to try and suppress.


Though in it's entirety this is a situation that is subjective and I fully understood that, however I do indeed determine what is and isn't feeble/good/bad/heavy/light/dark/grey/evil/good/truth/beyond/within/out and so on in my own life, not others. I won't ever force others to adhere to said notions of mine, but I may explicitly express them.


And that's perfectly okay, if you think it's silly that's fine. The only problem I have is telling people to not make their criticisms or shouting them down - it can stunt discussion which otherwise may be reasonable or with merit.
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Darn... I missed the first few uncensored episodes. Hopefully we'll get all the episodes uncensored in the future.

Yes, my understanding was that we would get the entire series uncensored at some point, so I didn't bother watching the uncensored versions of episodes 1-3 when they were available.

If all we are getting is temporary uncensored availability of blocks of episodes, I wish that had been made clear up front.

Based on the reports I've seen, the later episodes were apparently less egregiously censored, so I'm not as concerning if I miss those.

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I am not sure if I see any difference between uncensored and censored episodes on TerraFormars? I just watched all the uncensored episodes.

Could anyone tell me what I have missed?

Thank you for your help in advance!

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I am not sure if I see any difference between uncensored and censored episodes on TerraFormars? I just watched all the uncensored episodes.

Could anyone tell me what I have missed?

Thank you for your help in advance!



If you watched then when they simulcast then its the exact same thing.
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If you watched then when they simulcast then its the exact same thing.


Thank you for clarifying this for me, Karishin32. That explains it.

By the way, do anyone know if one could tell me if they can remember another anime with same artwork shown on Terraformars? It is very familiar to me and I do recall the anime that I do like very much with same artwork. But, for the life of me, I cannot remember the name of anime.

Hopefully, someone here knows what I am referring to.

Thank you for your help in advance!!

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