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White People for Michael Brown in Canada...Or Not?
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Posted 11/27/14
I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit
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Lol im not saying not to focus on that, im just saying we need to focus more on the broader picture. The entire government needs to be restructured and the law enforcement needs to be changed up to better represent the citizens of the country; and new initiatives to counteract police brutality on the whole need to be implemented (camera's on every police officers uniform that tape their encounters with suspects). We also need to address the way the government uses religion as a guide post on who deserves certain rights and what is taught in schools and so on.

It seem as if this incident is taking away from the grand scheme of things. I'm not saying its any less important, anything that effects the livelihood of a human being is an important issue. However, we need to focus on more than just this.

This racial issue is a derivative of an underlying sickness that plagues many of the worlds governments, and if we don't remedy it, we can't even hope to change this.

IMO the problem is we have to many conservatives in the governmental system who are stuck in their ignorant beliefs and ignorance to the peoples plights. We need more progressives and liberals in the world to step up and make a political change.

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dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit



People who make that point: The percentage for black on black homicides is 92% and the percentage for white on white homicides is 85%, so...yeah, what's their point when people bring that up?
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Well, I'm not gonna disagree with you on the view that right wing politics is worse and I also favor the left wing. Not saying the democrats are champions or that there aren't plenty of bad liberals, but yeah, I think the political left is by and large better than the political right.
Posted 11/27/14 , edited 11/27/14

dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit


Of more concern is that it's the leading cause of death for black men age 15 to 34 (~50%), according to the CDC. After 34 it drops to 3rd.
http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2010/LCODBlackmales2010.pdf




http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/
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dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit


Since you're black and you seem to have no problem with this, I guess you'd be fine if a white cop killed you or a family member and didn't face any consequences for it. You won't have to worry about the killer getting away with it if they're black. They'd get arrested and locked up right away if they're black.
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It's kinda weird that the guy got shot 16 times and the cop was sentenced not guilty.
The court probably presented a really big evidence to convince the jurors.
As a juror, you can only give your verdict based on the evidences provided, not by your emotions.

Oh, that sucks big time. Makes me want to know what kind of evidences they presented.
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I read they did a poor job in this case (as in, stacked it against Brown). For one, they didn't present all the evidence until after a verdict. I read that they presented some evidence, withheld some, jurors made a verdict, and then they presented the rest of the evidence afterwards (and they got to choose what to withhold).

I also read that the lawyers were very selective with their witnesses, and chose witnesses in such a way that it would surely cause doubt amongst jurors (on whether or not to indict Wilson).

Also, you don't need all jurors to agree for this verdict. Just 3 out of 4.
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We assume it's a race thing because we know racism is a fact, and the fact that most of us understand the whole black people are suspicious things. Most don't mean to discriminate, that's just how things play out. Stereotypes exist for a reason. Now I don't know about you, but racism isn't so strong today as you'll see cops murdering blacks without impunity as much nowadays, but paranoia is so widespread...at this rate, a cop will be killed for allowing a black man to shoot him.

Keep in mind that most people who think it is racism think that affirmative action is a good idea, to afford blacks and other minorities special privileges due to any hints of racism still left in the system. Is it a bad thing? I don't really know.
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Would these reactions happen when an asian guy get shot and killed?
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I read they did a poor job in this case (as in, stacked it against Brown). For one, they didn't present all the evidence until after a verdict. I read that they presented some evidence, withheld some, jurors made a verdict, and then they presented the rest of the evidence afterwards (and they got to choose what to withhold).

I also read that the lawyers were very selective with their witnesses, and chose witnesses in such a way that it would surely cause doubt amongst jurors (on whether or not to indict Wilson).

Also, you don't need all jurors to agree for this verdict. Just 3 out of 4.


Now it makes sense. The majority of evidence and witnesses indicate Wilson attacked Brown so I just assumed the jurors pretended to ignore all of it. If it's true that they didn't know about much of the evidence and were only presented certain witnesses, than that makes the prosecutor (who is VERY friendly with the Ferguson police department) an even worse person than I thought. After all, he's the one who was in charge of giving the grand jury everything. On Monday's press conference when he was announcing the verdict, he said the reason he ignored the rules and gave the grand jury all the evidence was because he wanted to be transparent with the public. This is the same person who said later in that same press conference that he didn't want to tell the public everything because it's against the rules... Throughout that entire press conference, he lied about pretty much everything. He made no effort to hide it. You can tell from the tone of his voice and his body language that he didn't really believe what he was saying and he was struggling to look calm in front of the cameras. He avoided questions that had to do with evidence and changed the subject. "Oh, the sky is blue because... because... hey, that's a cute puppy." He completely discredited every single witnesses that said Wilson attacked Brown and said only the few who said Brown attacked Wilson were credible. His made up excuse? The majority of witnesses were inconsistent while the few who supported Wilson were consistent, despite not matching up with the evidence or the majority of witnesses. He didn't even explain what he meant. All he said was "pro-Brown witnesses are wrong. Pro-Wilson witnesses are right."

Btw, isn't it convenient how they only needed 3/4 of the jurors to agree on a decision and 3/4 of the grand jurors were white?


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Would these reactions happen when an asian guy get shot and killed?


Only if the guy who killed him is a cop and gets off the hook.
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To start I just want to applaud the civility and quality of this thread so far. Unfortunately I can't promise what I have to say will maintain that level but here are my views nonetheless:

The canada link... I didn't click it but I got the gist of it from reading some of the user posts.

Yeah it is weird that they would try and segregate protest support, and it does seem counter-intuitive.

As for some of the comments expressing dissatisfaction with the lack of attention to similar occurrences in reverse, well the justice system in general, police etc, needs to have more accountability and less "authority waves carelessness", not to mention what was said in a previous post about the demographics of who make up the police officers in the US.


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I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit


To that I say, it doesn't matter if your black or white or whatever. I'm going to disagree with that based solely on the fact that your comparing "bad guys" killing other "bad guys" to "good guys" killing "regular guys". "good guys" aren't supposed to kill people.

as an example of why people get angry, this analogy:

a land lord doesn't have the right to violate his tenants home and belongings whenever they feel like. There are rules that apply. If a landlord just up and started eating your food and using your things you would have a problem with it because it's an abuse of power. The landlord might be able to stretch the rules because he's in the position of power but the fact that it's wrong doesn't change.

Now, if after killing people, criminals were NOT sent to jail, there WOULD be rioting over it, because nothing would be getting done and the justice system would be rationalizing it. THAT gets people upset. It's the same thing.
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dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit


Since you're black and you seem to have no problem with this, I guess you'd be fine if a white cop killed you or a family member and didn't face any consequences for it. You won't have to worry about the killer getting away with it if they're black. They'd get arrested and locked up right away if they're black.


If my family member was dumb enough to think it was okay to assault a cop and think he wasnt going to catch a body, then I wouldnt give a crap
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dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit



People who make that point: The percentage for black on black homicides is 92% and the percentage for white on white homicides is 85%, so...yeah, what's their point when people bring that up?


Basically the point is, they never want to talk about that issue. But whenever someone from another race decides to kill one, chaos ensues,playing the role of the victim, and finger pointing happens. If this situation was like Trayvon and the Zim Zam or that little kid who got killed in Cleveland, than sure id be mad. But as far as im concerned Furguson is a joke
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14

dragontackle wrote:

I hate how black people are up in arms about Mike Brown but dont have anything to say about the number of black men killing each other in Chicago every night. And before you scream "das racist", im black so calm down with the SJW bullshit


I agree my good sir. Handful of deaths by white cops; 1000's from black on black crime... which is the issue that needs to be fixed? Now I'm not saying White cops don't harass black people... but its not like every day they are just shooting them all willy-nilly like... I live 20 mins from Ferguson.... when this story first broke (in August) I was heartbroken when I saw the looters on TV rampaging through their own community, WITH THEIR CHILDREN IN TOW! The picture that stuck in my mind was these 2 little boys (ages 10-14) smiling like they are having the time of their lives just stealing and burning shit with what I assume were their parents/legal guardians. Way to show your kids the righteous path.
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