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So I Indulge In Things That Objectify Women?
Posted 11/28/14
So far, somehow I agree with everyone here, like wow first for everything

Especially AzazelOfNexium comments
Posted 11/28/14
oh ere we go, blame the media.
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Posted 11/28/14
I think the major point is just realizing that there is objectification in the material you enjoy. It's not so much an issue of not enjoying that media but more that you realize what it is and that you shouldn't treat anyone that way in real life. I feel it's also important to diversify your interests so that sort of media isn't the only thing you're consuming and enjoying.
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Posted 11/28/14

xDeadlyDollx wrote:

Sexual attraction is not objectification. Unless you are consciously and deliberately looking at someone and seeing them as nothing more than a tool for you to use, then in my opinion you are not objectifying them. For example, if you see a girl walk by and think "she's really pretty" or "damn, she's hot" or even "she's got a nice rack" I, personally, wouldn't consider it as objectification. You're just attracted to them, that's all. We are, after all, instinctively hardwired to pick sexual partners based on traits we find appealing (you know passing on good genes to our offspring yada yada yada..). I honestly see nothing wrong with that. I mean, you have to start somewhere. How the heck do you know if someone has an amazing personality at first sight? Now, if you see someone and you think "she'd be great as arm candy" or "that's a fine baby factory, right there" without any intention of acknowledging that they are also complex human beings, then that is what I would consider as objectification. Both sexes do this by the way. And in my opinion it's not really a gendered issue.

So yeah, physical attraction or admiring someone for their physical traits is not objectification. It only becomes that when you choose to disregard the fact that they are human beings with complex thoughts, personalities, and emotions.

Oh yeah, here's an interesting take on it by Karen Straughan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-N9daqANcw


lmao fine baby factory
Posted 11/28/14
As long as you don't disrespect women for the soul reason of them seen as objects to you you're fine. Just keep IRL things and personal interests separate in some aspects of life.
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14

PeripheralVisionary wrote:

So after a late night of debauchery and sin, I come to a realization. I come to value things which may or may not objectify women. I adore catgirls, and dakimakuras, but it doesn't bother me, and the occasional hentai, when I come to a stark realization. If I treat women based on how I view them in such medias, objectifying them would be a problem, but if I don't, than that means...where was I going with this?

So what is objectification to you? Is it bad to objectify? Can I indulge in medias that objectify women and still fight for equal pay for women? Do I have to throw out the dakimakuras I accumulated over the years?

Edit: Oh yes, I believe that objectifying is only a problem because people treat others based on what they have seen in medias, learning to treat them as objects and not human beings. I'd say it is an idiot issue, but I am well aware of the subtle effects of such medias on the human mind.


You monster. You dare discard those precious dakimakura as if they were mere objects?
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Posted 11/28/14
Well, as long as women objectify themselves, I wouldn't be overly concerned. And as a man, they won't feel one ounce of guilt about objectifying you financially either.
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Posted 11/28/14

xDeadlyDollx wrote:

Sexual attraction is not objectification. Unless you are consciously and deliberately looking at someone and seeing them as nothing more than a tool for you to use, then in my opinion you are not objectifying them. For example, if you see a girl walk by and think "she's really pretty" or "damn, she's hot" or even "she's got a nice rack" I, personally, wouldn't consider it as objectification. You're just attracted to them, that's all. We are, after all, instinctively hardwired to pick sexual partners based on traits we find appealing (you know passing on good genes to our offspring yada yada yada..). I honestly see nothing wrong with that. I mean, you have to start somewhere. How the heck do you know if someone has an amazing personality at first sight? Now, if you see someone and you think "she'd be great as arm candy" or "that's a fine baby factory, right there" without any intention of acknowledging that they are also complex human beings, then that is what I would consider as objectification. Both sexes do this by the way. And in my opinion it's not really a gendered issue.

So yeah, physical attraction or admiring someone for their physical traits is not objectification. It only becomes that when you choose to disregard the fact that they are human beings with complex thoughts, personalities, and emotions.

Oh yeah, here's an interesting take on it by Karen Straughan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-N9daqANcw


Yeah.. that pretty much works. I was going to say something about sexual attraction and someone beat me to it (and kinda said it better than I could anyhow).
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
I don't think anyone who's attracted to women actually believes that women are any less human than him/herself. People subconsciously objectify body parts, but they also subconsciously see human beings as human beings.

I mean, I view raunchy content all the time, but I still treat women as well as I would anybody else despite my subconscious "objectification" of the female body. I couldn't see a human being as less human than I am even if I tried. The brain just knows what's up. It processes human beings as human beings.

Those who treat women (or men) poorly are just asses to begin with. They see human beings as human beings, but that doesn't stop them from treating people poorly.
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Posted 11/28/14
As long as you can decipher who is real and who isn't, along with respecting real people, pretty sure you're fine.
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
I'm admittedly guilty as a woman, for looking at things that objectify them, but I see nothing reprehensible about looking at such content, as long as you continue to treat females with respect IRL. The media heavily objectifies us as is, but that isn't a pass to treat us as lower, even if by technical society standards we are considered as such: lower wages, heightened expectations for us, submissive gender roles, etcetera. We're people too.
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Posted 11/28/14
What? Humans....aren't toys? Heh. Heh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!



Phew. I gotta tell Dagon that one.
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Posted 11/28/14
I'm going to be "that woman" and say that I like being objectified. I think it's hot. And I love to be utterly dominated.

Different strokes for different folks, ya know?
Posted 11/29/14
I used to have a pet boiled egg.
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Posted 11/29/14 , edited 11/29/14

PeripheralVisionary wrote:So after a late night of debauchery and sin, I come to a realization. I come to value things which may or may not objectify women. I adore catgirls, and dakimakuras, but it doesn't bother me, and the occasional hentai, when I come to a stark realization. If I treat women based on how I view them in such medias, objectifying them would be a problem, but if I don't, than that means...where was I going with this?

As a human being, many things, for example beauty, sexually arouse me or just pleasure me in general. I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. It's just a very great thing about how our biology works.

So what is objectification to you? Is it bad to objectify?
It can be bad, if you don't care about the other persons feelings and respect him/her for the person he/she is. Also, when money comes into the picture, persons tend to be disrespected for the persuit of money. That is in general and not only when it comes to objectification of women and men in media for persuit of money. That is not good.

In anime though (and also in videogames), there are no real persons involved in the objectifications, so there everyone should just endulge in the beauty and objectify away all they want to release those chemical substances into your brain that gives you feelings of pleasure.


Can I indulge in medias that objectify women and still fight for equal pay for women?
Of course.
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