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Should she have gotten fired?
Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
An anime animator got fired for posting yaoi and ranting about her employer on Twitter. She also had her Twitter deleted. Was this right?

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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
so.... why is it bad that she drew sexual fan art? Its not like shes allowed to draw what ever she wants or anything *sarcasm*


I can see the trash talking thing being an alright basis to fire someone on (still pretty petty if you ask me though) But yaoi fan art? What is this communist fucking china? is she not allowed freedom to draw what she wants for her own personal enjoyment?

If anything she should have simply been "suspended" or asked to delete the artwork and possibly post it under an alias so it isn't indirectly linked to the company.

Posted 11/28/14

I think the part that got to IG the most was that these were characters of the project she was working on.

And talking bad about an employer on the internet never works out for anybody. They will see it at some point.
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Posted 11/28/14
Still though, My family owns a business and we have never fired people for talking trash. Thats just what employee's do. I dont expect them to pin up all their anger and frustration, I expect them to let it out. I would rather them not do it over the internet however.

I can see that being a complaint and it is a valid one (Characters being from the project she was working on) However, I still dont believe that justifies being fired. Everyone makes mistakes, and ending her career at IG for that single mistake is a bit harsh.

She should have been asked to remove the artwork from her personal site and if she didn't comply she would be on unpaid suspension from work until she does.

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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
Talking it over is fine when you work for a smaller family business but that stuff gets you fired when you work for bigger companies like Production IG, which has shareholders and boards of directors that aren't particularly tolerant to this kind of behaviour.
In this case she not only refused to remove the art, which by itself isn't so much a reason to be laid off, but she started to publicly badmouth the company.
If you publicly badmouth the company that you work for like that, the only talk you'll be getting next is the "You have 15 minutes to clear out your desk." speech.
And trust me, there are plenty of people just waiting to jump into that job opening.
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 3/10/15
I don't think she should have been fired for the images she drew, but when you talk crap about the company you work for, that's just begging to be punished, in some way or another.
Posted 11/28/14
It's a misrepresentation of the characters. Being an official animator of the show and drawing the characters in whatever yaoi situations she did (I don't care to see it. Yaoi disgusts me.) is sending out a wrong message to the fans about the show and its characters. If she wanted to draw Yaoi, she could have easily done so by creating her own yaoi characters. If people want to see those characters in yaoi, I see nothing wrong with it. They can draw them themselves, write fanfiction, whatever. But they should keep that stuff to themselves. Yaoi fanart is just about people's delusions and it's not bad, but to have the actual animator draw characters of a show in such a way is almost suggesting that it's what was intended. That's not cool. It would definitely ruin it for me, so yeah. I think she deserved to lose her job. She couldn't respect the project or her employer anyway. It clearly wasn't the right fit for her. She should just go work for a company that produces yaoi. She'll probably be happier.
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Posted 11/28/14
I don't have an issue with the yoai but bad mouthing your company on twitter is just plain unprofessional. If you feel that your creativity is being stifled or you honestly don't like the way a company you work for is being ran then quit and tell others the truth about the company but don't think you can trash talk your employers on social media and not receive some sort of repercussion (you can't have your cake and eat it to).
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Posted 11/28/14
It depends on what sort of contract arrangement she was hired under. Way too many people don't pay attention to what they are agreeing to when they take a contract, thinking "oh look money." I'm guilty of it myself, I got trapped by a non-compete clause once and it took years to get out of it. So she may or may not have been within her rights, if she agreed that all her work in regards to the project was to be confidential, drawing a publicly released image can be a violation of that contract.

Plus if I read the article correctly she is in Japan which has different labor laws than the US, the world is not the same everywhere as where you are. Further reading indicates that she wasn't fired immediately and that she was asked to stop, she continued to do so and also openly admits to loss of company property and failure to follow company procedures. that for me validates her dismissal. When you work for someone else you have to play by their rules, you don't want those rules? Go work for yourself, the boss should be a little more agreeable that way.
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Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
When you say she had her twitter acc deleted, did she delete her own twitter acc?
because...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-08/twitter-suing-us-government-for-breaching-freedom-of-speech/5799666
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Frenzify wrote:

I don't think she should have been fired for the images she drew, but when you talk crap about the company you work for, that's just begging to be punished, in some way or another.


Agreed.
Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14

Sir_jamesalot wrote:

When you say she had her twitter acc deleted, did she delete her own twitter acc?
because...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-08/twitter-suing-us-government-for-breaching-freedom-of-speech/5799666


From the link --


"...Ultimately, IG made the decision to request the deletion Kuroiwa’s Twitter account, and will not be requesting further animation work from her in the future"


It was IG who wanted it removed.

Also-


They also re-emphasized the importance of using social networking services not just as fans or staff members, but as working professionals, and will be making sure to review their policies on the use of Twitter, Facebook and other services with their employees going forward.


They're real hard asses when it comes to social media I would say.
Posted 11/28/14 , edited 11/28/14
I don't think she should have been fired, although I wonder if she might have could have forseen this might happen if she did this, and whether or not it was in fact worth it to her.
Posted 11/28/14
That isn't yaoi.

And yes she deserved it, not for drawing nudes. But for acting unprofessional on a public media.
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