Extraterrestrial Living Matter?
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Posted 11/29/14 , edited 11/29/14
So recently I had made a post about the existence of free will.
I had many great responses, but a few about the consciousness had brought up another imperative question.

The statements following lead to the two questions:

We are matter that is self aware.
Matter that belongs to the universe.

One day we will be able to produce self aware robots.
Robots do not have limitations to their consciousness.

Unlike humans, which are restricted by the body and brain.
(Our thoughts cannot leave the body we can only express them)

Q1. Would self aware robots share a consciousness and will this lead to a large mass of expanding consciousness?
Possibly declare itself the universe's brain and spread to the reaches of space.

Q2. Is this the natural direction of evolution/life and can it be avoided?

Some movies that depict such beings: ( Just so you don't call me crazy )
Gundam 00: A Wakening of the Trailblazer
Edge of Tomorrow
Interstellar
Transcendence
I, Robot
*List more examples/movies below and I will add it to the list*
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Posted 11/29/14
Don't forget i Robot! That movies great, btw ^_^.

Q1: I don't think robots would declare themselves as having the universe's brain, however I do think that they maybe the ones leading "a large mass of expanding consciousness". Who knows they might be the one invenitng space travel for us after we develop them, eh?

Q2: I believe it can be avoided because generally right now our focus in technology isn't really robots, except for Japan though. They might be the one creating intelligent robots that are independent and have free will. That is a little scary, too. @_@
Posted 11/29/14
There was this show i used to watch called "Extraordinary Humans".
Will robots impress?
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First of all, that's REALLY misleading.
Title is a question about aliens, The subject is about the awareness of robots.

It's ok though because when it comes to alien life, I think it's kinda pointless and futile to even bother considering it. If it exists, or doesn't exist, we will probably NEVER encounter it. Space is just so OMFG!!! big (like realllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyrealllyreallly
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Anyway, on to your questions!

Q1. Would self aware robots share a consciousness and will this lead to a large mass of expanding consciousness?
Possibly declare itself the universe's brain and spread to the reaches of space?

Hmmm.. No. It would still be one "being." It might have some super awesome processing power, but it's still just going to be one really really really big robot. (body defines self, or at least defines the physical limitations of the body it houses. If you break it off, it's automatically becoming a new entity until it would reconnect, ad then it would be one entity again.. etc. hard to get into.)

Unless it works like ants. And then still no. Ants haven't expanded the world's consciousness or whatever new age-y thing you're alluding to. Trust me, it sounds really technocentric to think technology is so much more awesome than us. Truthfully, technology sucks. It's not alive. It can do calculations, and it can do them REALLY REALLY REALLY fast, but it can't do what us humans can do and what we take for granted.... so far.


Q2. Is this the natural direction of evolution/life and can it be avoided?


Here's where things get weird. 1. we can't really define "life" very well. 2. We have no idea how define "intelligence" or "consciousness"

There are machines that adapt through processes of trial and error to be able to accomplish tasks..... And we have no clue how they do it really... :-/

So if machine consciousness does "evolve" I don't believe it will be in a way that's going to answer any big question we have, (except maybe to reassert that the universe is a strange, strange, strange place). It's probably going to be accelerated compared to our rise to consciousness, and more things will do it along side the machines (kind of a weird thing, but I believe the universe tends towards more information, and, once a process occurs, or is "figured out" it makes it easier for it to recur, though, this isn't saying much more than information isn't ever really lost, though it is created, and more often than not, stumbled upon again).

So.............Evolution... It's debatable if there's a final destination. I like to think there's some sort of obscure goal towards it, which is what drives it, but it's not like saying humans are the pinnacle of evolution, or the right choice, it's just that whatever program the universe is running, humans seem to be the best bet for now, (unless we turn out extinct, and then we'll be an evolutionary dead end) and life itself is kinda the same in a weird way, but... yeah...

Point is, if robots gain intelligence and a "soul", then they'll be like us, and life/evolution will probably trend more that way in the future after it happens... but it's not saying that it's because of life or evolution that it will cause it to happen..... It's.. very weird. I hope somebody stumbles upon this answer and can explain my pathetic words thingy better.
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If you say so.
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Q1. Would self aware robots share a consciousness and will this lead to a large mass of expanding consciousness?
Possibly declare itself the universe's brain and spread to the reaches of space.


The only way self-aware machines would be able to convey information to and receive information from one another is if you built them to be able to. They'd need cameras to see, microphones to hear, things like that. The way to make them a sort of "hive mind" would be to network them all to receive commands from and send input to a central hub. That wouldn't as much be individual machines "sharing a consciousness" as it would be a single machine with many appendages in the form of other machines. In the other case, if each individual machine connected to that hub were to be able to think and act independently while still sending information to it and receiving information from it that wouldn't really be a "shared consciousness" unless people involved in a three-way call also share a common consciousness.

And no, I don't think they'd become the Borg.

Q2. Is this the natural direction of evolution/life and can it be avoided?

I tend to think that science and technology will continue to progress, though perhaps not always at the rate they have over the last couple of centuries and perhaps not in a linear fashion. It's entirely possible for at least part of the developed world to fall into a sort of funk from which it doesn't escape for a while and in which previously obtained information and technology are lost, but I don't see that happening anytime in the near future.

I'm sure that at some point we will advance hardware and software enough to accurately simulate human behavior and cognition to the point where our own hardware and software (that is, our senses and psychology) won't be able to distinguish "them" from "us", and at that point we'll have to ask ourselves whether we've succeeded and created artificial life. I, for one, would be very happy if we did that and would welcome our creations. Essentially I'd do everything pretty much the opposite of how Victor Frankenstein treated his own creation. Where he greeted the product of his work with fear, hatred, and disgust, I'd greet it with love, compassion, and joy. I don't want to avoid artificial life.
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Posted 12/9/14
Technology could supersede evolution; AI's someday, also the possibility of implanting bio chips and developing a cloud consciousness the techno version the collective unconsciousness. Your mind could then be free of your body, but there would be the danger of being hacked.
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