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12 Year Old Boy With Fake Gun Fatally Shot By Police Officer
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Who knows? Willie Bosket was like....12 or 14 when he killed people with a gun.
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I just don't get these cops at all here. First of all, it's a 12 year old boy who is possessing the gun, so I'm not exactly sure he knew what he was getting himself into. And second of all, shooting is only done when all other avenues of peacemaking have been exhausted, and here these cops quickly resorted to shooting them. That's something that would have gone unnoticed if it were not for this Michael Brown case. It's just crazy that there are cops who don't think before they act.
Posted 11/30/14 , edited 11/30/14
People are like "He's innocent, you know it!! Cops are all bad and racist." Meanwhile he's out in the street like...




The US needs to make it harder to buy guns, sorry to all you gun lovers out there. They're a hazard, a danger, and a menace to society.

In 2013, 11,419 people in the US were killed by guns!!

In 2008, Japan had ELEVEN homicides by gun!!

Enough is enough!!!!!!!

I'll use even more exclamation points if it gets the point across!! We're killing ourselves.

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Could the boy have been parented better, definitely. Even so the boy should not be dead in this situation. He was 12 even if the police hadn't noticed. Remember kids, heck even some adults aren't going to necessarily react in a way you think is rational. From what was shown there doesn't seem to be time to have given the boy a warning. I happen to know that even if he had heard the instruction to put his hands up he may not have complied or done so in a time to suit the policemen. I actually know of a 12 old who happened be told to put her hands up at gun point from the police. She did not. Instead she went into shock and eventually collapsed needing to be taken to hospital. She had done nothing wrong it just so happened the police were looking for suspects in the vicinity of a residential area. From the statistics I've seen, US seems to have shot hundreds dead per year when in the whole of Europe police have shot less that 10 dead a year.
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If there was NO video, almost everyone would be reacting the same way as they reacted with the Michael Brown case. (Those who are in favor of Darren).

The police will always lie and confess the events on their own terms so they end up looking like the victim. In this case, thanks to the video, we can see who the real victim was. Unfortunately, something tells me that the officers will not receive further punishment (same as before).

All the recent events have made me lose the respect and credibility I once had for the people that are supposed to protect us. It's not only this one or the one before this one, but almost every month there is a similar case like this and people still say that it is not about racism.>_>



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Perhaps there need to be other avenues for police to pursue...and something has to change to avoid unnecessary slayings...but if anyone was walking around with a gun, brandishing it and what not then he becomes a threat. In the video you can clearly see that the kid was reaching behind his back to grab something...in view of those circumstances that is completely correct reaction from the police. If someone ever pointed a gun that looked real at me, I would return the favor and would not give them the chance to pull the trigger first.

I think instead of whining and complaining we as the citizens need to help come up with ideas police can use to avoid accidents like this. Is it possible to get rubber bullets as the first two rounds in a clip so you could potentially incapacitate someone without killing them? Use beanbag shotguns? Blow-darts with tranquilizers? What options are out there? Don't think of the problem, think of the solution.
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AiYumega wrote:

People are like "He's innocent, you know it!! Cops are all bad and racist." Meanwhile he's out in the street like...




The US needs to make it harder to buy guns, sorry to all you gun lovers out there. They're a hazard, a danger, and a menace to society.

In 2013, 11,419 people in the US were killed by guns!!

In 2008, Japan had ELEVEN homicides by gun!!

Enough is enough!!!!!!!

I'll use even more exclamation points if it gets the point across!! We're killing ourselves.



Just an interesting counterpoint to that. Chicago has one of the highest if not the highest gun crime rate every year. Chicago/Illinois Have the most stringent gun control laws in the entire united states. If you go 15 minutes East of Chicago You hit this other state with almost zero gun control.... And guess what! The gun crime rate there is one of the lowest in the country.

Just take a think about why that is.
Posted 11/30/14

Iregi wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

People are like "He's innocent, you know it!! Cops are all bad and racist." Meanwhile he's out in the street like...




The US needs to make it harder to buy guns, sorry to all you gun lovers out there. They're a hazard, a danger, and a menace to society.

In 2013, 11,419 people in the US were killed by guns!!

In 2008, Japan had ELEVEN homicides by gun!!

Enough is enough!!!!!!!

I'll use even more exclamation points if it gets the point across!! We're killing ourselves.



Just an interesting counterpoint to that. Chicago has one of the highest if not the highest gun crime rate every year. Chicago/Illinois Have the most stringent gun control laws in the entire united states. If you go 15 minutes East of Chicago You hit this other state with almost zero gun control.... And guess what! The gun crime rate there is one of the lowest in the country.

Just take a think about why that is.


The numbers stand for them self though. I refuse the thought we as a country should all be carrying a gun. That's myself.
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Iregi wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

People are like "He's innocent, you know it!! Cops are all bad and racist." Meanwhile he's out in the street like...




The US needs to make it harder to buy guns, sorry to all you gun lovers out there. They're a hazard, a danger, and a menace to society.

In 2013, 11,419 people in the US were killed by guns!!

In 2008, Japan had ELEVEN homicides by gun!!

Enough is enough!!!!!!!

I'll use even more exclamation points if it gets the point across!! We're killing ourselves.



Just an interesting counterpoint to that. Chicago has one of the highest if not the highest gun crime rate every year. Chicago/Illinois Have the most stringent gun control laws in the entire united states. If you go 15 minutes East of Chicago You hit this other state with almost zero gun control.... And guess what! The gun crime rate there is one of the lowest in the country.

Just take a think about why that is.


I would also like to add that people who murder usually do so as a crime of passion and will use the next available weapon of convenience. How are the knife murder levels in Japan? Don't give a raw number that doesn't compare, give percentages.

An armed population is a strong deterrent against criminals it also works well as an invasion deterrent as well. Sure the US wanted to wave it's nuclear dick around at the end of WWII but they were also afraid of the perceived notion of a samurai spirit and that even the civilian population would become combatants if there were an invasion.

Modern weapons have bolstered more confidence from military powers but the ground soldiers are still very afraid of urban deployment and for good reason. Imagine how it would be if someone landed a ground invasion on the American south... the potential for every household to be armed is a huge psychological blow. Criminals by trade (rather than the ones who commit crimes of passion) fear an armed population just the same.
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Iregi wrote:

Just an interesting counterpoint to that. Chicago has one of the highest if not the highest gun crime rate every year. Chicago/Illinois Have the most stringent gun control laws in the entire united states. If you go 15 minutes East of Chicago You hit this other state with almost zero gun control.... And guess what! The gun crime rate there is one of the lowest in the country.

Just take a think about why that is.


And then there was Finland, where the firearm related crime rate is relatively low, the firearm ownership rate is relatively high, and the process of obtaining a firearm involves an extremely strict bureaucratic regimen. That throws a wrench in the gears of both sides of the argument! Muhahahahahahaha! *folds hands*

No, but really. The point is that there are factors beyond the strictness of gun laws which will impact gun crime, and I question whether strict licensing regimens are even the most productive way to reduce such crime. It seems to me that endeavors to diminish the poverty rate and increase economic and educational opportunities have proven themselves to be more effective, though strict licensing regimens do not (at face value) appear to hurt.
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Just going to add my opinion in this thing.

It's true the cop shouldn't have killed the kid, if at all possible shot him in the arm or someplace non fatal, but you have to think of all the school shootings that have happened over the years. This year alone there has been over 40 school shootings involving kids bringing weapons and shooting people. Now this was no school but even having a toy gun around, especially a BB gun, can be dangerous. I myself was shot in the throat with one and had to have surgery to take it out. My friend lost the use of his voice because of a BB gun.

So you have to look at it on a grand scale of things, with so much violence happening here in America—with kids no less, you can't stop and give a second to think about whether or not someone is actually posing a threat. Plus in training, in any kind of defense or offense, there is a two second gap between your body reacting and your mind comprehending what just happened. I'm not taking sides, as I probably be considered too young to fully understand adults, but I'm just saying given the recent happenings through the years, the kids of America have gotten dumber as well as more violent.

Not to mention the rioters in Ferguson burning down buildings and setting cars on fire. That isn't going to help them either, that is just going to cause police to take even more measures that we will be angry about. Police can't take risks if there is a threat to public safety, so adults need to start teaching their children that certain things are stupid like waving a fake gun around without it's marker isn't right as well as set a good example instead of deciding to just burn the whole nation to the ground. That will only bring more violence and more hatred.

But this is just my opinion. You can counter it if you want, I'm just sick of being told I'm too young to understand when I understand a lot more than people think.
Posted 11/30/14 , edited 12/1/14
This is about a 12 year old boy. How can people justify the killing of a boy because of the recent school shooting events or the police protocols or even start talking about the gun problem in this country when the boy had a TOY ? none of that matters, they're just excuses...you all are just full of BS.

Racism is alive. 336-432-0386 this is f**ed up and anyone who defends what the officer did here is also a piece of s**t.
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Racism is alive, it always has been. And I'm not justifying it. I'm simply stating facts, and it wasn't known it was a TOY till AFTER when they went to look at it. And I'm sure the officer knows he is. Most officers never have to shoot anyone in there entire careers, and killing a kid for that matter is extremely hard. Actually killing anyone is extremely hard to those that feel emotion.

Thank you though, I know I'm full of BS. Anyone that has to live in a world filled with violence obviously knows nothing about reality and is full of BS.
Posted 11/30/14
I don't get this. We're talking about gun control, despite the fact that the officer was licensed and the boy carried a fake gun?
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