Post Reply CR's surround sound matrixing is messed up on PS3, Xbox360, and PC (Firefox + IE)
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Posted 11/29/14 , edited 11/30/14
Hi CR,

You guys need to fix surround sound for the episodes. I think it's some kind of encoding issue, or whatever else.

PS3 - No rear channels, stuck on 2.1. Other PS3 apps like VUDU behave fine.

Xbox360 - No rear channels either, other things on the console outputting surround fine so it's not the connection or the equipment

PC - From website, all surround channels outputting the same signal. Motherboard's Dolby Digital Plus is working fine for everything else- Other websites, other apps and programs including VLC, all fine.

It used to be okay. Fixit pls

I don't think the specs matter, but I have it in this thread http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-854987/review-crunchyroll-using-xbox-360-ps3-pc
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Posted 11/29/14 , edited 11/30/14

nanikore2 wrote:

You guys need to fix surround sound for the episodes. I think it's some kind of encoding issue, or whatever else.

CR can't fix something that isn't there. Believe it or not, televised anime in Japan is produced with only stereo tracks.

If you have some recent anime DVDs or Blu-rays, you can verify this for yourself by checking the Japanese audio. (The dubs are sometimes remastered to 5.1 audio). About the only 5.1 audio you'll see on anime discs in Japan are for movies and Blu-ray box set remasters.

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Posted 11/30/14 , edited 11/30/14

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nanikore2 wrote:

You guys need to fix surround sound for the episodes. I think it's some kind of encoding issue, or whatever else.

CR can't fix something that isn't there. Believe it or not, televised anime in Japan is produced with only stereo tracks.

If you have some recent anime DVDs or Blu-rays, you can verify this for yourself by checking the Japanese audio. (The dubs are sometimes remastered to 5.1 audio). About the only 5.1 audio you'll see on anime discs in Japan are for movies and Blu-ray box set remasters.



...Then CR should stop having audio sent the way it is sent. Why do all the other sites and apps behave (and CR did behave a while ago) and CR doesn't? CR doesn't have to be the lone exception that's sticking out like a sore thumb.

If there is no surround then clean the signal so it doesn't get messed up.
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Posted 11/25/17 , edited 11/25/17

nanikore2 wrote:


TheAncientOne wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

You guys need to fix surround sound for the episodes. I think it's some kind of encoding issue, or whatever else.

CR can't fix something that isn't there. Believe it or not, televised anime in Japan is produced with only stereo tracks.

If you have some recent anime DVDs or Blu-rays, you can verify this for yourself by checking the Japanese audio. (The dubs are sometimes remastered to 5.1 audio). About the only 5.1 audio you'll see on anime discs in Japan are for movies and Blu-ray box set remasters.



...Then CR should stop having audio sent the way it is sent. Why do all the other sites and apps behave (and CR did behave a while ago) and CR doesn't? CR doesn't have to be the lone exception that's sticking out like a sore thumb.

If there is no surround then clean the signal so it doesn't get messed up.


If it's the way your receiver is handling PCM streams. It most likely the same thing that happens on the PS4 where the PS4 is sending a 5.1 or 7.1 channel PCM stream over HDMI and the receiver thinks that the source material contains 5.1/7.1 channels when only the Front left and Front Right channels are "hot"/"active". So the receiver can't use Dolby Pro Logic II or DTS Neo: 6. This isn't the fault of Crunchyroll, but way the console handles delivery of the audio.

What I had to do in order for my receiver to properly see the two "Hot" channels is to tell the PS4 to send the signal via Optical Out. This doesn't actually deactivate the HDMI audio feed, it just remixes the audio so that it can all stream into Two PCM channels since the maximum amount of uncompressed channels that Optical Out can support is two PCM channels.

This will in turn be duplicated by the HDMI audio feed. BAM! My receiver can now see just the two active channels and properly apply any matrix audio decoder (Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS Neo: 6, THX Ultra Cinema, etc)

Sure, it's a hassle to flip back and forth, but it's worth it to me. *Shrug*
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