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The direction of current anime
Posted 12/2/14

ReikaMichiko wrote:

Mmm maybe its your choices of comparison.. or me being prude.. but the second image seems like softcore porn to me?


Well if it was it wouldn't be allowed to be sold in Japan or the US like it is, so it's technically not. But yaoi, yuri, eroge, and that could seem like it, even if Japan has extremely strict laws when it comes to censorship and what can be sold and what can't.



I mean that exact page was in the NGNL manga in Barnes and Noble here in the US.
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Posted 12/2/14

ReikaMichiko wrote:

Mmm maybe its your choices of comparison.. or me being prude.. but the second image seems like softcore porn to me?


cay032692 wrote:

Well whatever direction Anime is "taking", we are not changing that anytime soon, also there is a comprehensive list of shows, that literally has zero fan service cliches, you just have to find them/backlog them when you feel the season you are in is stale.....




I actually only watch one anime at a time.. which is why its taken me so long to watch the amount of anime I watch now.


As in 1 anime during a season? or 1 anime to marathon until completion, then move to the next one........
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Posted 12/2/14

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ReikaMichiko wrote:

Mmm maybe its your choices of comparison.. or me being prude.. but the second image seems like softcore porn to me?


Well if it was it wouldn't be allowed to be sold in Japan or the US like it is, so it's technically not. But yaoi, yuri, eroge, and that could seem like it, even if Japan has extremely strict laws when it comes to censorship and what can be sold and what can't.



I mean that exact page was in the NGNL manga in Barnes and Noble here in the US.


Regardless of what someone else says it is... how bout what you saw it as. Did it elicit a sexual response for you? If so I'd say its softcore porn.

Of course thats another whole discussion.. fanservice vs porn... Im more interested in discussing why there is so much fanservice in anime period.

Personally I loved anime like Planetes.
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cay032692 As in 1 anime during a season? or 1 anime to marathon until completion, then move to the next one........


As in one anime till completion
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No it didn't at all, but I understand why some people would say it's borderline softcore porn. I don't think it is though. It's just manga.
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Posted 12/2/14 , edited 12/2/14

AiYumega wrote:



No it didn't at all, but I understand why some people would say it's borderline softcore porn. I don't think it is though. It's just manga.


This, it's just how manga is. If you don't like it simply don't read it. That's probably the only thing to say about this whole thing.
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Posted 12/2/14
Actually, the series mentioned here are relatively tame. The REAL poster child for overkill for this type of show is Najica Blitz Tactics, which was done in 2001. Full episodes for this are posted on the web, so you can look for yourself and see what I mean.
Posted 12/2/14
anime be like; oopsy daisy, i hurt you again. crushed your expectations in the palm of my hand.
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Posted 12/2/14

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anime be like; oopsy daisy, i hurt you again. crushed your expectations in the palm of my hand.


Wait, like which?
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Posted 12/2/14

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anime be like; oopsy daisy, i hurt you again. crushed your expectations in the palm of my hand.


Luckily the one good point about there being so much gratuitous fan service.. is that it will show itself within the first episode now and days.

Helps with avoiding this issue.
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Posted 12/2/14
New generations of fans come into anime when certain genres are more prevalent than others. Things like panty shots and fanservice have existed in anime since at least the 1970's, if not earlier. They are not a current trend, so much as a long standing tradition at this point. The only reason why they appear more prevalent now is simply because a ton of anime is being made each season, where in the past it was mostly a few OVAs (straight to home video) and a handful of TV shows. A lot of which was way more than just panty shots. Excessive violence and sexual situations were the norm of anime in the late 80's and early to mid 90's.

It was not until around 2000 things started to shift. In fact, the anime that is ecchi today is a lot tamer in comparison to those OVAs of old. Anime is cyclical. Just wait and soon enough a new trend will take over, whatever that may be. Though, in the mean time, there are hundreds of shows that don't incorporate fanservice elements excessively, if at all. I suggest searching them out if fanservice is a concern, and if you are not finding them you are not looking hard enough at what's out there already.

I also think some people tend to project sexulization on things when it is not inherent to what's happening. A lot of the cute girls doing cute things shows have little to no sexual situations, but just because it is mostly girls some people somehow see them as sexual or something. I don't really get that mentality tbh, as those shows are usually the most pure and devoid of ecchi fanservice moments.

To illustrate my point anime today is tamer, here is an image that compares anime of old with newer anime.


More comparing the era of anime pre and post "moe" boom.



NOTE: I censored any images that showed nudity/excessive lewdness with black to make them PG 13.
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Posted 12/2/14

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I may provide assistance! I'll highlight in red the shows this season with some "cliche" or "generic" ecchi things. Blue for debatable. Green if i have no clue. Yellow for no.

Amagi Brilliant Park
Akatsuki no Yona
Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo
Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai
Denki-Gai no Honya-san
Donten ni Warau
Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
Garo: Honoo no Kokuin
Girlfriend (Kari)
Grisaia no Kajitsu
Gugure! Kokkuri-san
Gundam Build Fighters 2
Gundam: G no Reconguista
Hitsugi no Chaika 2
Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de
Karen Senki
Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
Madan no Ou to Vanadis
Nanatsu no Taizai
Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji
Ore, Twintails ni Narimasu.
Orenchi no Furo Jijou
Psycho-Pass 2
Sanzoku no Musume Ronja
Selector Spread WIXOSS
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Shingeki no Bahamut Genesis
SHIROBAKO
Sora no Method
Terra Formars
Tribe Cool Crew
Trinity Seven: 7-nin no Mahoutsukai
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete
World Trigger
Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road
Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru


I am following 4 of the red ones, then again, I like myself some ecchi :3
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Posted 12/2/14

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GoldTStar wrote:

I may provide assistance! I'll highlight in red the shows this season with some "cliche" or "generic" ecchi things. Blue for debatable. Green if i have no clue. Yellow for no.

Amagi Brilliant Park
Akatsuki no Yona
Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo
Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai
Denki-Gai no Honya-san
Donten ni Warau
Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
Garo: Honoo no Kokuin
Girlfriend (Kari)
Grisaia no Kajitsu
Gugure! Kokkuri-san
Gundam Build Fighters 2
Gundam: G no Reconguista
Hitsugi no Chaika 2
Inou-Battle wa Nichijou-kei no Naka de
Karen Senki
Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
Madan no Ou to Vanadis
Nanatsu no Taizai
Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji
Ore, Twintails ni Narimasu.
Orenchi no Furo Jijou
Psycho-Pass 2
Sanzoku no Musume Ronja
Selector Spread WIXOSS
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Shingeki no Bahamut Genesis
SHIROBAKO
Sora no Method
Terra Formars
Tribe Cool Crew
Trinity Seven: 7-nin no Mahoutsukai
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete
World Trigger
Yowamushi Pedal: Grande Road
Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru


I am following 4 of the red ones, then again, I like myself some ecchi :3


There is nothing wrong with a little ecchi my friend ;)
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Posted 12/2/14

sonic720 wrote:

New generations of fans come into anime when certain genres are more prevalent than others. Things like panty shots and fanservice have existed in anime since at least the 1970's, if not earlier. They are not a current trend, so much as a long standing tradition at this point. The only reason why they appear more prevalent now is simply because a ton of anime is being made each season, where in the past it was mostly a few OVAs (straight to home video) and a handful of TV shows. A lot of which was way more than just panty shots. Excessive violence and sexual situations were the norm of anime in the late 80's and early to mid 90's.

It was not until around 2000 things started to shift. In fact, the anime that is ecchi today is a lot tamer in comparison to those OVAs of old. Anime is cyclical. Just wait and soon enough a new trend will take over, whatever that may be. Though, in the mean time, there are hundreds of shows that don't incorporate fanservice elements excessively, if at all. I suggest searching them out if fanservice is a concern, and if you are not finding them you are not looking hard enough at what's out there already.

I also think some people tend to project sexulization on things when it is not inherent to what's happening. A lot of the cute girls doing cute things shows have little to no sexual situations, but just because it is mostly girls some people somehow see them as sexual or something. I don't really get that mentality tbh, as those shows are usually the most pure and devoid of ecchi fanservice moments.

To illustrate my point anime today is tamer, here is an image that compares anime of old with newer anime.


More comparing the era of anime pre and post "moe" boom.



NOTE: I censored any images that showed nudity/excessive lewdness with black to make them PG 13.


Yeah I tend to block most of the early OVAs out.... for reasons stated above
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Posted 12/2/14

ReikaMichiko wrote:

I'll apologize ahead of time, I don't know all the terms and different genres... so you'll have to excuse my ignorance.

I just wanted to ask, is anyone else annoyed at the current trend of pantsu shots in place of actual plot? It seems like every new anime I watch lately has been sticking in gratuitous amounts of ripped clothing, upskirts, shower scenes, etc. Like somehow this constant barrage of female bodies makes up for the fact your anime is another generic fluff piece with nothing original to it and its actually kinda painful to watch.

Of course, thats only my opinion.


I agree with second poster. This has been going on for quite a while.

I personally dont mind fan-service in moderation, but having fan-service and loli fan-service shoved down my throat is annoying. I'm getting really sick and fucking tired of seeing panties when the script writers couldn't figure out what the next line of dialogue should have been.

However, its not all so bad, there are alot of shows still coming out with good stories and such. When push comes to shove you can always re-watch some of the older shows. I recently started my 14th re-watch of blue exorcist and my second of D.Grey Man so i can pass the time for another really good show to come out :3
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