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Terrorist attempt at Gateway Arch
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Posted 12/3/14
This is just breaking news and there isn't a lot of information yet, but according to several news sources, two people from the New Black Panther Party made an attempt to bomb the Gateway Arch in St. Louis and attempted to assassinate both the chief of police and the prosecutor in Ferguson. You can read more here:

http://nypost.com/2014/11/27/2-men-plotted-to-bomb-st-louiss-iconic-gateway-arch-ahead-of-ferguson-decision/

We will have more information hopefully soon, but any thoughts on this?
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Posted 12/3/14
Oh, another terrorist attack. How...newsworthy...
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Posted 12/3/14 , edited 12/3/14
lol and this is supposed to fix the country....yes.. lets fix the country by destroying it.
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It seems the men in question had already been noticed and were being monitored for months prior to their arrest. Apparently Chief Jackson had also been warned that there was a plot on his life afoot, though he says he wasn't given a lot of details. Give them due process, and if they're found to be guilty then proceed as legal protocols command. This kind of behavior is not an acceptable form of protest, so they'll have no sympathy from me if they're found guilty.

Congratulations are in order for the team which conducted the investigation and the arrest. They may have saved a lot of lives.
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Posted 12/3/14
I agree with protesting but not protesting by blowing stuff up and endangering lives.
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Posted 12/3/14

AzazelOfNexium wrote:

lol and this is supposed to fix the country....yes.. lets fix the country by destroying it.


This seems to be the logic followed by quite a bit of people these days.

Take Ferguson for example. "Argh. We lost our loved one's life. You know what'll make it better? Instead of doing anything remotely affecting those involved.. LETS BURN AND DESTROYING SMALL BUSINESSES AND RUIN THEIR LIVELYHOOD. JUSTIIICE."
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Posted 12/3/14

BlueOni wrote:

It seems the men in question had already been noticed and were being monitored for months prior to their arrest. Apparently Chief Jackson had also been warned that there was a plot on his life afoot, though he says he wasn't given a lot of details. Give them due process, and if they're found to be guilty then proceed as legal protocols command. This kind of behavior is not an acceptable form of protest, so they'll have no sympathy from me if they're found guilty.

Congratulations are in order for the team which conducted the investigation and the arrest. They may have saved a lot of lives.


I agree. I know a lot of people have been giving the police a lot of crap in general for the actions of one officer in Ferguson, and this isn't to say there is or isn't institutionalized racism in our country when it comes to our police force, but there are still some competent men and women on the police force and in government agencies that know how to professionally carry out their job and who exist to protect and serve our nation.

Not everything in the world is, no pun intended, black and white and we need to be careful as a population to not generalize and stereotype people, but rather work constructively to prevent issues like what occurred in Ferguson and prevent such violent backlash like the Ferguson riots and these terrorist attempts.
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Terrorism is evil and wrong. These guys are in the wrong. But it bothers me a little that these guys will get raked across the coals while police officers like Wilson continue to get slaps on the wrist when they are in hot water. Seriously, if you have been paying attention to these kinds of things, time after time that a case comes up against a police officer (where there is legitimate cause for controversy), they almost always get a slap on the wrist.


I mean, this Ferguson thing was a mess. People made such a big deal about what happened to Brown, but there was an even worse incident that happened around the same time Brown died. It is the Eric Garner case. In Staten Island, NY, Eric (a black man) was confronted by police for selling untaxed cigarettes. He got frustrated for the police always coming knocking at his door for something. He exclaimed his frustration, threw his arms and hands up in the air out of frustration, and then a police officer immediately attacked him from behind and put him into a choke hold (because whoa! he threw his hands in the air suddenly, and we all know how black suspects are 'extra dangerous'...). This choke hold is illegal for police officers to do in NYC, btw. Anyway, Eric was reaching his hands up to the officers arms, gasping for air, and saying (to the best of his ability when being choked) "I can't breath, I can't breath". Eric was soon subdued, and soon after this, died. The autopsy showed that he died because of the stress the choke hold was having on him (Eric was overweight, which factored into this, but nonetheless, the police officer did something which killed him). Oh yes, a bystander caught all of this on camera. Illegal choke hold and all. The police officer never went to court. A jury decided not to indict the officer...

You see, shit like this happens all the damn time in America. And a lot of times it is a black person who is being killed. And so, so many times when things like these happen and they investigate the situation and the cop (or cops) come under fire, they end up walking away with a slap on the wrist...

I can't tell you how many times I've seen a cop come under fire, they investigate, give him something like three weeks of paid leave, and then when all is said and done, the guy walks away with little to no punishment...
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Dubnoman wrote:

Terrorism is evil and wrong. These guys are in the wrong. But it bothers me a little that these guys will get raked across the coals while police officers like Wilson continue to get slaps on the wrist when they are in hot water. Seriously, if you have been paying attention to these kinds of things, time after time that a case comes up against a police officer (where there is legitimate cause for controversy), they almost always get a slap on the wrist.


I mean, this Ferguson thing was a mess. People made such a big deal about what happened to Brown, but there was an even worse incident that happened around the same time Brown died. It is the Eric Garner case. In Staten Island, NY, Eric (a black man) was confronted by police for selling untaxed cigarettes. He got frustrated for the police always coming knocking at his door for something. He exclaimed his frustration, threw his arms and hands up in the air out of frustration, and then a police officer immediately attacked him from behind and put him into a choke hold (because whoa! he threw his hands in the air suddenly, and we all know how black suspects are 'extra dangerous'...). This choke hold is illegal for police officers to do in NYC, btw. Anyway, Eric was reaching his hands up to the officers arms, gasping for air, and saying (to the best of his ability when being choked) "I can't breath, I can't breath". Eric was soon subdued, and soon after this, died. The autopsy showed that he died because of the stress the choke hold was having on him (Eric was overweight, which factored into this, but nonetheless, the police officer did something which killed him). Oh yes, a bystander caught all of this on camera. Illegal choke hold and all. The police officer never went to court. A jury decided not to indict the officer...

You see, shit like this happens all the damn time in America. And a lot of times it is a black person who is being killed. And so, so many times when things like these happen and they investigate the situation and the cop (or cops) come under fire, they end up walking away with a slap on the wrist...

I can't tell you how many times I've seen a cop come under fire, they investigate, give him something like three weeks of paid leave, and then when all is said and done, the guy walks away with little to no punishment...


And again I say: If you weren't there, you don't really know what happened. And if you weren't seated on the jury, then you don't know what evidence they saw or what discussions they had, meaning that you don't know why they reached their decision. Of course, it sounds as though you simply don't like cops. . .not that I'm saying you don't, because I don't know. But it sure sounds that way. . .
Posted 12/3/14

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I agree with protesting but not protesting by blowing stuff up and endangering lives.


This hasn't been protesting... Protestors fight within the law. This is rioting. It really solves nothing at all. If you take the time to read up on multiple sources it was self defense and the officer was in a bad bad bad situation. The race card doesn't belong here. The media and parents paint him as a child but in reality his criminal record was as follows:

Michael Brown had 4 felonies by the age of 18:
1st degree burglary
Armed Criminal action
Assault first degree against a female
Another Armed criminal action
Felony unclassified"
Other felonies still pending in court.

He was pictured in multiple photos holding up gang related signs. While it's still a tragedy whenever someone dies at such a young age, you need to understand we have laws for reasons and if he had even remotely complied he would still be here today.

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And again I say: If you weren't there, you don't really know what happened. And if you weren't seated on the jury, then you don't know what evidence they saw or what discussions they had, meaning that you don't know why they reached their decision. Of course, it sounds as though you simply don't like cops. . .not that I'm saying you don't, because I don't know. But it sure sounds that way. . .



It is more like I'm starting to not like cops after seeing very many stories where it is highly suspect they are in the wrong, and they end up getting away scott-free.

At one time, I was quick to defend police officers, but that has been lessening and lessening.

To be fair, I know there are a lot of good police officers that try to help and serve communities the best they can and are all around good people.

But there is a real big problem lately with our police force and how a lot of police officers keep getting away almost unscathed after a controversial incident which involves a dead citizen. There is a problem with police in America these days. It is helping create and sustain more and more anti-police attitudes and mentalities. They should try to bring things under control, for many reasons, one of which being that if things aren't improved for the better soon, anti-cop attitudes and mentalities are only going to increase and increase.


Edit: I am not one to defend Michael Brown. The Ferguson thing was a mess. My point is more about how I've read dozens of news articles over the last several years about how a black person was killed by a police officer (or officers) and there was controversy about whether or not there should have been lethal force used or if the force used was excessive.
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A few bad eggs in every crowd if you look at all the cases out there most of them are a he said she said kind of thing....Now I am not saying that there aren't corrupt officers out there as obviously we all know that no one is incorruptible. At the same time to say even a majority of the police in America are an issue..I would have to say no sir..Matter of fact if it wasn't for them doing their job every day we would all be boarding up windows and hugging a shotgun while we slept...That being said there are a few questionable incidents out there we see over the years and I think they are going about the right way by investing in cameras that would be on the police to ensure future incidents are not so unclear and judgments can be made without being impaired. As a person who has lived in bigger cities all his life law abiding citizens have nothing to fear.
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Posted 12/4/14
For the record, these guys have extremist ideas and are pretty much hated by the Original, and no longer operating Black Panther Party led by Huey P. Newton. They stole the name and logo without stealing the ideas and values

Just wanna throw that out there so people don't get them mixed up
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Posted 12/4/14 , edited 12/4/14
@Lekayl, It'd be wrong to say that most police in America are the bad eggs, but there seems to be a lot of them who are or aren't too good, to the degree that there is a problem, in general, with our police forces. A lot of these people aren't suitable for the job (and of course, to be fair minded, many of them are suitable for the job).
Posted 12/4/14
it's funny that they are always getting caught before doing anything. how silly, they should just operate individually and stop talking shit if serious. really, such attention seeking twits.
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