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Remove Anita Sarkeesian from ME2 dev team
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Money talks OP. Just don't buy the game. Once EA starts losing money they will toss her.
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IDGAF whether she's included in game development or not. If the games suck, then I won't play 'em. If they're good, then I might. My opinion on Ms. Sarkeesian's message is ambivalent. I agree that games, along with the majority of pop media, represent women in shallow and stupid ways. (See link for good examples of shallow, stupid character tropes that made me laugh) http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-male-characters-women-never-get-to-see-in-movies/ However, I do not think that forcing game developers to work within a predetermined misogyny-free framework is at all useful. It's troll bait, and annoying as shit.

I propose that henceforth all game characters, good and evil, smart and stupid, sexy and ugly, be made female and available with boob and ass sliders. Male characters, if allowed, will be limited to the roles of child in need of rescue, hairdresser or similar support service, gay sidekick, or person first to die. Problem solved.
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Wait, wait, wait, hold on—they're making a sequel to Mirror's Edge?
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mhibicke wrote:
I propose that henceforth all game characters, good and evil, smart and stupid, sexy and ugly, be made female and available with boob and ass sliders. Male characters, if allowed, will be limited to the roles of child in need of rescue, hairdresser or similar support service, gay sidekick, or person first to die. Problem solved.


If the stories are good, and it quits people from bitching and moaning, I'm all for it.
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serifsansserif wrote:


mhibicke wrote:
I propose that henceforth all game characters, good and evil, smart and stupid, sexy and ugly, be made female and available with boob and ass sliders. Male characters, if allowed, will be limited to the roles of child in need of rescue, hairdresser or similar support service, gay sidekick, or person first to die. Problem solved.


If the stories are good, and it quits people from bitching and moaning, I'm all for it.


I usually just button mash until I get to the fighting part. Unless there are boobs in the cutscenes, then I watch on mute.
Posted 12/7/14 , edited 12/7/14


People with a propaganda tend to do that; manipulate the truth a little to reinforce their agenda; she's no exception... The maker of this petition is no exception either... Just because you are a gamer doesn't mean you're qualified to say who is or isn't suitable to be a gaming developer.

If y'all think all people who work for games are into gaming, y'all are all living a delusional reality.
Posted 12/7/14 , edited 12/7/14
Why try to remove her? What is she even doing as part of the development team? I'd imagine that she's just a consultant for certain sociological aspects of the plot or setting. Even though I take issue with quite a few of her criticisms, I don't really think it will make that much of a difference if she's consulting behind the scenes.

Plus I can't imagine her presence changing all that much about Mirror's Edge 2. I'd imagine that Mirror's Edge, more than almost any other game, would probably be virtually unaffected by her input. It's not like we're talking about God of War or GTA or anything - how much could she possibly change about Mirror's Edge? lol

'Shrugs' - Not that i'm a fan of hers by any stretch of the imagination. Signing a petition to remove her just seems like a bit of an overreaction is all lol. Unless she's working on core game mechanics or something.
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Haha. "Anita Sarkeesian doesn't know anything about game development".

Well, I imagine that puts her on a level with most of her critics here.

Does anyone know what her actual role is? This is the first I've heard of it. I imagine it has something to do with a feminist consultant of a certain product? You know, "Hey Anita, check out these cutscene storyboards, what do you think?" "I like them but you're kind of turning this female character into a bit of a damsel in distress." Something along those lines? Seems like the sort of thing she'd be a sensible candidate for.

I don't agree with everything she says - I do agree with a fair amount of it - but that doesn't matter. If EA want to pay her for her opinion, then that is their right. I don't give a damn who they talk to about their games, I care about the product they come out with in the end. Maybe that means Mirror's Edge 2 will come out and be a game that Anita would approve of. If that automatically means you wouldn't like it, then maybe that game won't be for you. But a petition to remove someone from involvement is a pretty petty way of going about it.


Can't really let the top comment slide. Sorry, but I actually do know quite a bit about game development. I've been making my own maps on and off for various games since I was 13-14, and that included doing my own QA for hours. In some cases, made my own props for my maps. I've made simple text based games in high school and I've made some engine code in the past. I know people in the industry as well. I can't say I know everything about it but I know enough to comment on this.

I will look into what role she has later but I can tell you from a business perspective that going anywhere near her isn't really good. She's controversial and has a lot of unanswered questions about her, as I mentioned before. There's a significant amount of gamers that fundamentally disagree with her, both male and female. She is incredibly polarizing and having her involved in the development of a AAA game many just simply play without the politics being involved will likely result in backlash. Having a petition on this is hardly "petty." If no effect comes from the petition, there is a good chance many gamers will simply vote it out with their wallets.

Not to mention, if I was the owner of the studio, I'd kind of want to know what happened with the 158,000 considering she hasn't even put out half of the promised videos and is now asking for more money. That's something any job interviewer would grill you on if they found out.

A female friend of mine put it best about Anita. "You're not making Feminism Better, You're Just Making Geek Culture Worse."

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People with a propaganda tend to do that; manipulate the truth a little to reinforce their agenda; she's no exception... The maker of this petition is no exception either... Just because you are a gamer doesn't mean you're qualified to say who is or isn't suitable to be a gaming developer.

If y'all think all people who work for games are into gaming, y'all are all living a delusional reality.


As someone who plans on getting into game development, I doubt that people with little-to-no experience with games are going to be hired if they are going to be a part of the storyboard, programming, bug testing, or concept design teams, because you should know what type of content you're going to be working with, and what examples of good and bad games are. The only ones I could see getting a pass on this front are the artists, seeing how they are just coming up with designs. Personally, I can't think of what sort of position she could be in for ME 2, aside from basic QA testing and voicing her opinions on the game.

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People with a propaganda tend to do that; manipulate the truth a little to reinforce their agenda; she's no exception... The maker of this petition is no exception either... Just because you are a gamer doesn't mean you're qualified to say who is or isn't suitable to be a gaming developer.

If y'all think all people who work for games are into gaming, y'all are all living a delusional reality.


Except that, as their consumers, gamers do have a significant voice. If enough gamers voice their concerns, plans do change. Plans that don't change have been met with disaster for the publisher and developer, time and again. They will pay for the game or not in the end, and considering the current business models of selling games and then selling "season passes" that will afford them all future DLC, they got harder sales to make today. Adding that the average AAA title runs 60 bucks, even on PC these days, which often had 10 dollar discounts, you have to convince a lot of money to edge out of a wallet that is increasingly feeling the strain in the modern economy.

Also, people who work for the gaming industry got in by being into gaming at one point or another, sans some support staff such as HR. The ones that do still do play games. they may not play them as much as the average consumer, sure, but if you are not in touch with the current state of the industry, it would be asinine to expect development and production staff to put out a competitive product compared to other modern game offerings. Not to mention, code is often borrowed from other games, or the understanding on how other games work. The accountants, secretaries, and in some cases the writers may not need to be gamers or familiar with gaming, but considering how brutal the industry is, making a game has to be your higher calling to work as a developer or QA tester for the modest salaries you get, which is your path into lead roles which are higher paying. You have to want it, and you don't get that want by not being into gaming, or at least delving into gaming culture and history.

It would be like saying people in Hollywood aren't into movies.

Edit: Grammar errors, clarified a few lines.

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woah woah woah WHOA!

Anita Sarkeesian is no gamer. She even said she hated Vgames and never played one on one video. Then she blatantly lies to everyone by saying she has always played them when she was a little girl. And people still believe her and give her credit?!?!?!
Why would anyone trust her word if she lies and steals, only going on to cherry pick arguments.

Her goal is only political, it's not to make video games better. And it has spread with all this Gamergate stuff. I don't watch game reviews or go to sites like Polygon.com or Kotaku.com | I refuse to support them at all. They wanna side with politics go ahead.

This is my challenge to anyone of her supporters, if she can talk the talk, can she walk the walk?
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I truly don't know her, so I suppose I must be living under a rock. I google'd a bit of information on her, and I see nothing that she said that was deserving of death threats or terrorist threats.

all it proves to me is that we're living in a man's world where a woman's opinion is constantly being belittled and rejected.


Lol, that's not the problem here... 30% of the people who work at DICE and EA are woman and I have no problem with them working there, I just want her out of that place since she doesn't know anything about gaming. Plus, she'll ruin the game with her input! We also have the fact that she claims to hate games!
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Honestly why is everyone so offended by equality? I side with Anita because feminists don't message people threatening to rape and or kill them or call in bomb threats against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E47-FMmMLy0#t=58
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I enjoy how she's the "face" of video game feminism when all she does is bullshit her way through topics and arguments so her mouth foaming mindless fans listen to her every beck and call.

Not saying she deserved death threats, (even though there is much speculation that she staged these herself to get pity points.)
http://www.returnofkings.com/42602/did-anita-sarkeesian-fake-death-threats-against-herself
but she's kind of like that little child who goes up to the neighbors dog and kicks it until it gets angry then responds, then runs to her parents when it finally bites and get's the dog put down, so that everyone will assume the dog is evil and shes the sweet and innocent girl.

And don't even get me started on other (actual) feminist gamer kickstarters she blatantly sabotaged.

TL;DR
She's a terrible person who manipulates impressionable SJWs into giving her money for things she wont do.

P.S.
Even 4chan has done more to support Feminist gaming than Sarkeesian has.
Think about that.
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