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Japan is a pretty progressive nation, a lot more so than the US, but they still have yet to even consider legalizing gay marriage, or even giving protection of gays, and for the most part, sweep the idea of gay under the rug.





That's the funniest thing I've read all day, thanks for the laugh.




I don't really mind that honestly. That's their country, their store, they can let who they want in.

We kept them in camps for 5 years, I'd be pretty pissed too.
well, yeah the japanese are known for having bias agaisnt gaijin

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The US is not progressive. Certain states are, and regions, but the country as a whole is definitely not progressive.


Thank goodness for that!

I enjoy living in my backwater state that allows all kinds of fun stuff, unlike that progressive state of NY that doesn't allow anything.

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AiYumega wrote:

The US is not progressive. Certain states are, and regions, but the country as a whole is definitely not progressive.


Thank goodness for that!

I enjoy living in my backwater state that allows all kinds of fun stuff, unlike that progressive state of NY that doesn't allow anything.

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Edit: I wrote a post to perrandy, don't know if he read it...look, I was cynical in my post and ridiculed you...I want to desist that...I'll just say...I really don't agree with your stance on these matters, but you are of course free to feel the way you do about these things, but your views on the matter...your first post was talking about stuff that was straight up conspiracy theories. I mean, ridiculous kinds of conspiracy theories.
you are free to believe or not and so am free too to believe whatever i want but ridiculing people or calling names without argument is just petty and cruel and it also will make some people believe that the person that you are having a quarrel or debate with might have a point or two.at least i offered two sources/link for what i believe.





While your links do talk about some things that are true...about HIV being high amongst gay males when compared to other demographics, there are a lot of very negative stereotypes, myths, and misconceptions about gays and the LGBT community at large.
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militant homosexuals wont stop till everybody not only accept their ways but that most should applaud what they do.it was never about "rights" to begin with it is about the acceptance of society to sodomize any male at will.the gay marriage thing is a ruse to change society for the elite because if people arent having heterosexual relations then there's no healthy family and the govt and hospitals/psychiatrists and big pharma will benefit from the societal debacle.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/10/01/cdc-gay-men-represent-2-percent-of-us-population-52-percent-of-people-with-hiv/



Conspiracy much?

not much when its data to back it up.nation is basically changing its moral compass for just 2 percent of the population.its like changing english for navajo language which as you can tell does not add up



I don't think the gay marriage thing is a ruse. A ruse is where you try to mislead people about what you're aiming to accomplish. I think the whole push for gay marriage is just that...a push for gay marriage. Not some illuminati plot to get more people infected with AIDS so big pharma can sell more drugs. Also, you do realize that homosexuals are having sex with each other right now, and will continue to do so regardless of whether or not they get the right to marry, right?

I also don't think we're changing much and neither is it for just 2 percent of the population. Plenty of straight people support gay marriage. And is it really that big of a change? Several states in the US already allow for gay marriage, and so have several other countries. I have yet to hear about any societal turmoil caused in those places that have legalized it.

It has just occurred to me that this whole conspiracy nut thing you have going on is an attempt at trolling. If that is the case, then I tip my hat to you sir. Congratulations on successfully trolling me. If you are serious, then I apologize for accusing you of trolling.
and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public

Posted 12/9/14

jehester wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

The US is not progressive. Certain states are, and regions, but the country as a whole is definitely not progressive.


Thank goodness for that!

I enjoy living in my backwater state that allows all kinds of fun stuff, unlike that progressive state of NY that doesn't allow anything.



NY state does allow a lot of things, including gay marriage. the US has progressiveness, it's just not consistent.





So the sarcasm was for...?
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Dubnoman wrote:

Edit: I wrote a post to perrandy, don't know if he read it...look, I was cynical in my post and ridiculed you...I want to desist that...I'll just say...I really don't agree with your stance on these matters, but you are of course free to feel the way you do about these things, but your views on the matter...your first post was talking about stuff that was straight up conspiracy theories. I mean, ridiculous kinds of conspiracy theories.
you are free to believe or not and so am free too to believe whatever i want but ridiculing people or calling names without argument is just petty and cruel and it also will make some people believe that the person that you are having a quarrel or debate with might have a point or two.at least i offered two sources/link for what i believe.






I think the original post was talking about progress in Japan, not really soliciting an essay on why you don't agree with equal rights.

None of my Japan friends have anything negative to say about homosexuality. You can feel confident that this kind of prejudice is fading away. Maybe not as fast as some people would like, but the writing is on the wall, and humanity is going to make another leap forward whether or not certain folks like it.
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Why do you think that one thing is "progressive" anyway? New York also allows marriage between first cousins.
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and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public




Any people at those parades who are scantily clad and doing innappropriate things...they are idiots. But then again, a lot of people are idiots. Anyway, don't let those fools represent the LGBT community at large. Lots of those people aren't like that and wouldn't do lewd things in public at parades. A whole lot of them don't participate in these kinds of parades. Really, should be the vast majority of them.
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Japan is pretty open to just about everything.

A person in Japanese society is most often not looked down upon for what they do behind closed doors as long as they are doing what needs to be done in their life (working, providing for their family and so on).

As my Japanese teacher often likes to say.

"Japan is a country where anyone can be accepted as an equal so long as they accept others as their equal".

Also in japan, unlike the western world, being polite is basically the culture.
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perrandy wrote:
and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public




Any people at those parades who are scantily clad and doing innappropriate things...they are idiots. But then again, a lot of people are idiots. Anyway, don't let those fools represent the LGBT community at large. Lots of those people aren't like that and wouldn't do lewd things in public at parades. A whole lot of them don't participate in these kinds of parades. Really, should be the vast majority of them.


Events and groups like http://www.igra.com/ do more for the good of gays than the pride parades do.


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and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public




Any people at those parades who are scantily clad and doing innappropriate things...they are idiots. But then again, a lot of people are idiots. Anyway, don't let those fools represent the LGBT community at large. Lots of those people aren't like that and wouldn't do lewd things in public at parades. A whole lot of them don't participate in these kinds of parades. Really, should be the vast majority of them.
if thats so then why the regular homosexuals dont call them out? ah because thats right sexual promiscuity and jumping from flower to flower is part of the homosexual lifestyle (although i know that there are few that are monogamus but if the total homosexual population is 2 percent just imagine how low sexual monogamy is and the CDC data backs that up)

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Dubnoman wrote:


perrandy wrote:
and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public




Any people at those parades who are scantily clad and doing innappropriate things...they are idiots. But then again, a lot of people are idiots. Anyway, don't let those fools represent the LGBT community at large. Lots of those people aren't like that and wouldn't do lewd things in public at parades. A whole lot of them don't participate in these kinds of parades. Really, should be the vast majority of them.


Events and groups like http://www.igra.com/ do more for the good of gays than the pride parades do.
i dont see a problem with that as long as they clothed and no public sex is going on. didnt knew that this existed btw

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]and several states voted agaisnt it and were overuled by the supreme court,get real dude.dont tell me that you will find ok to see kids watching gay parades were people ARE on the street doing sexual acts to each other in public



The supreme court only overturned the amendments to the state constitutions that banned the marriage of homosexual couples. That doesn't mean that they made it legal in those states. I live in Texas, and I can say for certain it's not legal here. And besides, state constitutions can't contradict the US constitution, and the Supreme Court gets to say what is and isn't constitutional.

And I don't think actual sex acts take place at the pride parades...at least not in public. And honestly I don't care when kids learn about the existence of sex. They're gonna have to learn eventually. Anyway, it's been fun but I'm done with this conversation, got shit to do.
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Why do you think that one thing is "progressive" anyway? New York also allows marriage between first cousins.



Why I think acceptance and tolerance of LGBT people is important and progressive...for starters, I don't think people choose their sexuality. While it could be a matter of both 'nature' and 'nurture'; that could be possible, I think that for the most part, a person's sexuality is determined by biological factors. What is most common is that people are heterosexual. Some people are attracted to the same sex while not attracted to the opposite sex, and I think that it is really because of certain biological factors at play within them. It is no fault of their own for being the way they are. Science is more and more finding that this is probably scientific fact. A lot of evidence indicates this (by the way, they have very high standards for things becoming 'scientific fact'. The theory of evolution is very widely believed by scientists, but is not 'scientific fact').


So, with that belief on the matter of people's sexuality...I think it is wrong to hate and discriminate against these kinds of people. Virtually all people want romantic love, to fall in love with someone and share their life with the love of their life. Gays aren't all about just having sex with each other. They are just like so many straight people, they hope to fall in love with someone. They want to fall in love with people they are attracted to. I mean, they should have that right to. How would anyone feel about trying to fall in love with someone they simply aren't attracted to?

So, yes, I think equality and more rights for gays, lesbians, and bis is progressive. On the matter of transgendered people, it isn't even the same. The trans people just got lumped with gays, lesbians, and bis because they can't really stand on their own. Trans individuals have a condition, which is due to biological factors, that make them completely identify with the sex opposite of their physical self (so i.e. a person with the body of a male who absolutely identifies with the female gender). Males and females have differences in their brains and psyches. Part of what makes males and females different is their psyches and thus, who they are and how they develop psychologically. A person with a male body who identifies as a female, due to biological factors, has a female psyche. Transgendered people are terribly misunderstood by most of the world. Oh, also, I've read a number of trans individuals say that not being able to dress and live and be the gender they identify with be to be 'excruciating'. They specifically used that word.
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