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Japan, Anime and Homophobia
Posted 12/10/14

AiYumega wrote:


jehester wrote:


AiYumega wrote:
Japan is a pretty progressive nation, a lot more so than the US, but they still have yet to even consider legalizing gay marriage, or even giving protection of gays, and for the most part, sweep the idea of gay under the rug.





That's the funniest thing I've read all day, thanks for the laugh.




I don't really mind that honestly. That's their country, their store, they can let who they want in.

We kept them in camps for 5 years, I'd be pretty pissed too.


We have laws in the US forbidding discrimination of customers, I don't see how this is any different. At one point in my life I wouldn't even opened the door to black people that come knocking.
Posted 12/10/14

FlyinDumpling wrote:


AiYumega wrote:


I don't really mind that honestly. That's their country, their store, they can let who they want in.

We kept them in camps for 5 years, I'd be pretty pissed too.
The sign is written in Korean as well, are you intentionally being a moron?


Not sure if that was directed at me or not. But yeah, there is Korean there.
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Posted 12/10/14 , edited 12/10/14

AiYumega wrote:

It's 2014, almost 2015. For the most part, the world has made humongous strides when it comes to general equality, i.e. being able to marry the same sex. While there's still serious problems with this world (sweatshops),

I found this video from CNN talking about the first and only Buddhist temple in Japan, located in Kyoto, that allows gay unions, (not marriage because that's not legalized). As it is, there are no gay right laws. You can be fired, evicted from your home, denied health care, and you can't do anything about it. They're legally allowed to do so.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2014/12/04/pkg-ripley-japan-gay-rights.cnn&video_referrer=

Other than yaoi/yuri, anime and manga are not representative of gays. I can't think of one anime I've watched in the past year that has had a single gay character, and the same for manga. It's possibly insinuated, but not really ever shown.

Japan is no more homophobic than the United States, where the line of support is strongly drawn down between those who understand it's not a choice, but rather the person's natural state, and those who use religion as a way to muddy the truth, claiming the same God I think accepts everyone has a list of people he "hates" and is going to make them burn.

Not the case.


But as I said, other than the yaoi and yuri, anime and manga are not showing homosexual characters, and they don't have to....

Japan is a pretty progressive nation, a lot more so than the US, but they still have yet to even consider legalizing gay marriage, or even giving protection of gays, and for the most part, sweep the idea of gay under the rug.

TL:DR - Japan has some issues when it comes to homosexuality, so does anime.

Just to clarify, I don't feel Japan is homophobic at all. There's a lot of people who do, but I don't really don't. I think they're moving at the same pace as most of the world.


For me, at least Japan is willing to recognize that the LGBT community even exists, even if it isn't overwhelming support, in their entertainment industry. Being an American, I feel that the U.S. does everything in its power in the entertainment industry to pretend that the LGBT community doesn't even exist. Recently, U.S. media is more willing to have openly gay characters on television, but LGBT content is still rare.

In Japan, sexuality, I feel, is addressed more and, in many ways, yaoi/yuri is more present in popular media in the anime/manga industry than gay/lesbian content is in the States. Even more so, in content aimed towards teens, I feel that Japan does a better job incorporating gay characters into their shows than the U.S. does, even if their sexuality is subtly addressed; for example, Leeron from Gurran Lagann (and none of you even try to tell me that he isn't gay). It's soo essential that teens are exposed to such characters because many of them are still trying to find their own sexuality and it creates more openness in the next generation to be accepting of the LGBT community around them by having a relatable, or at least understandable, character to look to.

The issue I have with Japan, as well as the United States, is that when they incorporate gay characters into their content, they tend to be the comic relief rather than a main character or even a larger side character outside of yaoi/yuri. In most cases, this role is often harmless and simply does its job but when gay and lesbian stereotypes are played on as comic relief, that is where it can get offensive (and I don't mean harmless flirting; I mean honest to god offensive stereotypes).

In order to progress, we need to get the notion that gay/lesbian main and side characters appearing in anime or any type of media automatically classifies it as a yaoi/yuri story. Seeing these kinds of characters in other kinds of stories that only have romance as a sub-plot is how both societies will be able to start moving on from the segregation of the LGBT community outside of modern media and perhaps such an effort can even be a major influence on a shift in the popular opinion on gay rights in both regions.
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