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bobland wrote:

imo 2nd amendment is obsolete. Fat chance the British (or Canadians) and going to invade us anytime soon.


That argument can be made, but it really isn't purely an 18th century concern. It was direly important at certain times to have armed civilians in the 20th century as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_Campaign

That sort of event, while minor, was a major issue for people in the Pacific Northwest. My grandpa, who was 15 at the time told me stories about just how afraid of land invasion people really were during WWII in our local area. They were doing emergency drills, forming militia's, and strengthening fortifications in preparation for it.

Of course things are far different now than they were 70 years ago, and I'm not anti-gun control. But still, we're talking 70 years and not 200. People are still alive today from back then after all.
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bobland wrote:

imo 2nd amendment is obsolete. Fat chance the British (or Canadians) and going to invade us anytime soon.


idk u never know about them Canadians.. i mean, maple syrup. it just sounds suspicious.
Posted 12/12/14

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idk u never know about them Canadians.. i mean, maple syrup. it just sounds suspicious.



Those hockey sticks can be put to good usage as well! It's always the quiet ones eh.
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Is it bad of me to say it almost doesn't phase me anymore. I swear this shit happens every day now
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SoldierSangria wrote:


bobland wrote:

imo 2nd amendment is obsolete. Fat chance the British (or Canadians) and going to invade us anytime soon.


Aliens though. Aliens.


Aliens? nah...



(I just really like having a reason to pull out that image...)

Seriously though, guns have little purpose in today's society outside of military use or hunting. I'm not so sure I even care for the police having them. Still, to each their own.
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serifsansserif wrote:


SoldierSangria wrote:


bobland wrote:

imo 2nd amendment is obsolete. Fat chance the British (or Canadians) and going to invade us anytime soon.


Aliens though. Aliens.


Aliens? nah...

(I just really like having a reason to pull out that image...)



Seriously though, guns have little purpose in today's society outside of military use or hunting. I'm not so sure I even care for the police having them. Still, to each their own.



well, there is the fun factor. .22 rifles are a lot of fun.
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I had just heard about this today. It's scary that there's all these shootings going on. I live in the suburbs right outside of Portland.
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MFW i thought we were going to finish the year on a good note then I read this.
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:

This time in Portland, Oregon. I will never understand why this happens so much in the USA.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/us/portland-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



why? 2nd ammendment.

kinda funny considering the 2nd ammendment was made to created a backup military, and therefore all the gun restrictions run contrary to origonal purpose of the 2nd ammendment. go figure.


Second amendment was another limitation on government power (In my opinion) because our government wanted to be able to be overthrown by it's citizens if it became corrupt, and yet you can no longer incite a revolt and be protected by freedom of speech anymore, which is horrific violation. for instance: do we really need a legislative branch anymore? What I mean is that its now possible for everyone to vote wherever they are via cellular phones and the internet, as opposed to 1776 where it was hard to even convene meetings that led to the constitution due to the distance some representatives had to travel (by carriage or horse) to attend said meetings. just issue everyone a tablet with biometric security features and bam, no more need for the representative democracy, instead direct democracy. I mean, if were just going to send idiots to congress anyways we might as well represent ourselves instead.
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kevz_210 wrote:

Is it bad of me to say it almost doesn't phase me anymore. I swear this shit happens every day now


It's scary that we are now used to it
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Hehaho1830 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:


HuastecoOtaku wrote:

This time in Portland, Oregon. I will never understand why this happens so much in the USA.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/us/portland-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



why? 2nd ammendment.

kinda funny considering the 2nd ammendment was made to created a backup military, and therefore all the gun restrictions run contrary to origonal purpose of the 2nd ammendment. go figure.


Second amendment was another limitation on government power (In my opinion) because our government wanted to be able to be overthrown by it's citizens if it became corrupt, and yet you can no longer incite a revolt and be protected by freedom of speech anymore, which is horrific violation. for instance: do we really need a legislative branch anymore? What I mean is that its now possible for everyone to vote wherever they are via cellular phones and the internet, as opposed to 1776 where it was hard to even convene meetings that led to the constitution due to the distance some representatives had to travel (by carriage or horse) to attend said meetings. just issue everyone a tablet with biometric security features and bam, no more need for the representative democracy, instead direct democracy. I mean, if were just going to send idiots to congress anyways we might as well represent ourselves instead.




that will never happen. the goverment decides who will run it. popular vote is something like 40%, so the citizen will never be able to choose the president. voting is just a...'opium of the people'. an illusion that we have control over our goverment. like public schools, i cant go on them when they closed, depsite being 'public' places. or 'public lands' no such thing.

im sure dempocracy was a big step 300 years ago, but, really, how much power do the people have? how many even care?
whats the voter turn out in USA, like 1% or something?
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Posted 12/12/14

SoldierSangria wrote:


Sogno- wrote:

idk u never know about them Canadians.. i mean, maple syrup. it just sounds suspicious.



Those hockey sticks can be put to good usage as well! It's always the quiet ones eh.


sounding a little like Doctor Strangelove there.

"General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Well, no, I can't say I have."
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nemoskull wrote:




serifsansserif wrote:


SoldierSangria wrote:


bobland wrote:

imo 2nd amendment is obsolete. Fat chance the British (or Canadians) and going to invade us anytime soon.


Aliens though. Aliens.


Aliens? nah...

(I just really like having a reason to pull out that image...)



Seriously though, guns have little purpose in today's society outside of military use or hunting. I'm not so sure I even care for the police having them. Still, to each their own.



well, there is the fun factor. .22 rifles are a lot of fun.


true.....
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nemoskull wrote:


Hehaho1830 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:


HuastecoOtaku wrote:

This time in Portland, Oregon. I will never understand why this happens so much in the USA.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/us/portland-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



why? 2nd ammendment.

kinda funny considering the 2nd ammendment was made to created a backup military, and therefore all the gun restrictions run contrary to origonal purpose of the 2nd ammendment. go figure.


Second amendment was another limitation on government power (In my opinion) because our government wanted to be able to be overthrown by it's citizens if it became corrupt, and yet you can no longer incite a revolt and be protected by freedom of speech anymore, which is horrific violation. for instance: do we really need a legislative branch anymore? What I mean is that its now possible for everyone to vote wherever they are via cellular phones and the internet, as opposed to 1776 where it was hard to even convene meetings that led to the constitution due to the distance some representatives had to travel (by carriage or horse) to attend said meetings. just issue everyone a tablet with biometric security features and bam, no more need for the representative democracy, instead direct democracy. I mean, if were just going to send idiots to congress anyways we might as well represent ourselves instead.




that will never happen. the goverment decides who will run it. popular vote is something like 40%, so the citizen will never be able to choose the president. voting is just a...'opium of the people'. an illusion that we have control over our goverment. like public schools, i cant go on them when they closed, depsite being 'public' places. or 'public lands' no such thing.

im sure dempocracy was a big step 300 years ago, but, really, how much power do the people have? how many even care?
whats the voter turn out in USA, like 1% or something?


It wasn't a big step 300 years ago, we just copied the Romans and Greeks and added a few ideas like innocent until proven guilty, not having to quarter troops, and universal suffrage. the Greeks actually made direct democracy work, they just didn't have universal suffrage. same with the Romans. 90% of government ideas used today come from that era...
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Posted 12/12/14

Hehaho1830 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:


Hehaho1830 wrote:


nemoskull wrote:


HuastecoOtaku wrote:

This time in Portland, Oregon. I will never understand why this happens so much in the USA.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/12/us/portland-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



why? 2nd ammendment.

kinda funny considering the 2nd ammendment was made to created a backup military, and therefore all the gun restrictions run contrary to origonal purpose of the 2nd ammendment. go figure.


Second amendment was another limitation on government power (In my opinion) because our government wanted to be able to be overthrown by it's citizens if it became corrupt, and yet you can no longer incite a revolt and be protected by freedom of speech anymore, which is horrific violation. for instance: do we really need a legislative branch anymore? What I mean is that its now possible for everyone to vote wherever they are via cellular phones and the internet, as opposed to 1776 where it was hard to even convene meetings that led to the constitution due to the distance some representatives had to travel (by carriage or horse) to attend said meetings. just issue everyone a tablet with biometric security features and bam, no more need for the representative democracy, instead direct democracy. I mean, if were just going to send idiots to congress anyways we might as well represent ourselves instead.




that will never happen. the goverment decides who will run it. popular vote is something like 40%, so the citizen will never be able to choose the president. voting is just a...'opium of the people'. an illusion that we have control over our goverment. like public schools, i cant go on them when they closed, depsite being 'public' places. or 'public lands' no such thing.

im sure dempocracy was a big step 300 years ago, but, really, how much power do the people have? how many even care?
whats the voter turn out in USA, like 1% or something?


It wasn't a big step 300 years ago, we just copied the Romans and Greeks and added a few ideas like innocent until proven guilty, not having to quarter troops, and universal suffrage. the Greeks actually made direct democracy work, they just didn't have universal suffrage. same with the Romans. 90% of government ideas used today come from that era...



innocent untill proven guilty, lol.
so how do you arrest an innocent person? and 'proven' is heavly edited by law. evidence can be ignored, and the term 'jury nulifacation' depsite the fact that was the origonal intent of the jury. not this bull shit 'jury, your hear to tell us if he is guilty or not'. and why the hell do you want 13 avrage citizens to check the experts findings?

i got to leave this thread. there is a lot of things i'm pissed about today, and this is just adding to my list of thing that bother me with the world. peace out and chicken grease!

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