The Uber Rape Allegations, The company model, and IC's
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Posted 12/18/14
Let's just get the link to the article out of the way...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/12/17/uber-driver-accused-rape-kidnapping-customer/KYnOQczKFqggfbnri2FpGL/story.html

I also want to put aside, for the moment, the whole rape discussion.

Rape is bad, Mmmmkay? End of discussion.

What's bothering me about this is how a business model like this somehow got away with it, and somehow, to someone out there, was considered a "good idea".

Uber, Sidecar, and the rest like them basically use an IC model.

The company claims to be a tech company. It's just handling the financials and the connection of driver to passenger.

It, however, sets the prices (based on demand, according to their claims), and their prices come out of the price of the taxiing service, which, remember, they set, not the contracted labor, and not a price based on the phone app itself.)

It's a service that does background checks, but, from what I can tell, anyone can become a driver. The service is carried out with the driver's own personal automobile, and although I don't use the service, I'm assuming you do not get to really choose your driver.

Because the service uses IC's, the responsibilities and liabilities of the company are very limited. Whereas the company, because it uses IC's does not have to pay health care, insurance, or pay social security, medicare, and other deductions that usually are split 50/50 with your employer and taken from your paycheck. (those fall on to the IC to pay in full, and, having experience with IC work, those taxes are usually about a third of your pay... But, since IC means that you're kind of a company unto yourself, you learn quickly how to rack up deductions, and what you can and cannot deduct from your taxes).

Unfortunately, this also means that the company cannot dictate hours, quality of service (to a degree), or how the work is carried out, and other such things. upon the IC. What it basically boils down to is you use this service, and it automatically hooks you up with a random stranger from the internet to give you a ride, which you pay them for.

It's the equivalent to hopping into the car of the first person that offers you a ride home after drinking at a bar. It's the equivalent of taking up the first responder to a craigslist ad without a background check.

I just can't believe someone decided this was "good".
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The idea itself is pretty solid.

However, I believe every driver should have to submit a criminal record and have an interview via skype or something.

However, people should always be wary of their surroundings and their situations.


Any Taxi company can have some sketchy drivers, in my country (Bahamas) almost every taxi driver is also a drug dealer. Almost every taxi driver near the resort hotel Atlantis will sell you pot and cocaine if you ask them to.

Using any form of taxi service is never 100% safe, there is always a risk of having a driver with ulterior motives.

I would NEVER get into a taxi when drunk and expect them to not rob me. Sometimes people honestly put themselves in bad situations/

Women should also be extremely careful when going with a stranger when drunk.

Its a sad an unfortunate story, but it also drives home the point that people need to be more careful. It also proves the point that the government needs to impose mandatory background checks on anyone who works in either hospitality or taxi services.
Posted 12/18/14
I don't trust it. Lyft, Uber, Air BnB.


Nope nope and nope. I was raised to trust no one until you get to know them. Getting into a car with someone you have never met? Nope!

Also, living in someone's home, when you don't know them. Helllllll no.

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as the above 2 said.
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http://www.bostonherald.com/business/business_markets/2014/12/massachusetts_joins_california_uber_suit

Some more food for thought about the misclassification of its drivers.. Also, more rape-y drivers. FFS.
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AiYumega wrote:

I don't trust it. Lyft, Uber, Air BnB.


Nope nope and nope. I was raised to trust no one until you get to know them. Getting into a car with someone you have never met? Nope!

Also, living in someone's home, when you don't know them. Helllllll no.



Yeah I thought that was also a bit strange lol
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