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Does anyone above the age of 25 enjoy ecchi or harem animes?
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I think I enjoy harem antics more now than I did ten years ago. So long as it's not the stereotypical clueless, hapless chick magnet for a MC and brainless flesh-press, harems are a nice route to just shut off your brain and enjoy the ham.
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why wouldn't older males be able to enjoy ecchi just as much as younger males?

personally, I look for characterization and story first in the anime I enjoy. if those anime also happen to involve ecchi and harem antics, then of course I'll still watch and enjoy them. I don't enjoy ALL ecchi/harem shows, though. there will obviously be bad ones, just like any other genre. but just because it's an ecchi/harem show doesn't mean it can't be good.
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Look at all of us mighty thirtysomethings. Behold our power.

One thought I can add, since somebody brought up Ai Yori Aoshi: See, I like a harem show that's honest about what it is, and that's one reason why AYA is one of the ones I don't like. I like it when it's just Aoi and Kaoru; as soon as other characters show up, it just feels like the author's wasting time for no reason at all.
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I probably watch more now than I did when I was a teen lol.

I like fun and a lot of the ecchi harem shows can be pretty fun. That said, I watch plenty of different types of anime too. It's all about balance and what you are in the mood for really.
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:



Look at all of us mighty thirtysomethings. Behold our power.

One thought I can add, since somebody brought up Ai Yori Aoshi: See, I like a harem show that's honest about what it is, and that's one reason why AYA is one of the ones I don't like. I like it when it's just Aoi and Kaoru; as soon as other characters show up, it just feels like the author's wasting time for no reason at all.


There are a few harems like AYA, not many, that introduce the harem after they have already established a solid relationship between the MC and one girl. The problem with those harems is, it becomes EXTREMELY difficult to like any of the girls other than the main one, because in essence all the other girls are home wreckers.
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Ecchi? Sure, I enjoy the occasional bit here and there within reason. Harem though? Not a chance. Even if the concept of a series otherwise seems interesting, as soon as the harem overtones start kicking in I tune out. Even if it's not blatant harem but just feels like one, I immediately lose interest.
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:



Look at all of us mighty thirtysomethings. Behold our power.

One thought I can add, since somebody brought up Ai Yori Aoshi: See, I like a harem show that's honest about what it is, and that's one reason why AYA is one of the ones I don't like. I like it when it's just Aoi and Kaoru; as soon as other characters show up, it just feels like the author's wasting time for no reason at all.


Yes, it's probably one of the worst harem series out there because the harem is there solely to get in the way of the main pairing. Except for Tina, that is. It's great for the first few episodes, then just dies.

41 here. I like some harem and ecchi shows if they are legitimately funny. Girls Bravo and Invaders of the Ryokojouma are two examples that come to mind. I even like some braindead ones, like Infinite Stratos. But only in small doses.
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dmdwriter wrote:


rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:



Look at all of us mighty thirtysomethings. Behold our power.

One thought I can add, since somebody brought up Ai Yori Aoshi: See, I like a harem show that's honest about what it is, and that's one reason why AYA is one of the ones I don't like. I like it when it's just Aoi and Kaoru; as soon as other characters show up, it just feels like the author's wasting time for no reason at all.


Yes, it's probably one of the worst harem series out there because the harem is there solely to get in the way of the main pairing. Except for Tina, that is. It's great for the first few episodes, then just dies.

41 here. I like some harem and ecchi shows if they are legitimately funny. Girls Bravo and Invaders of the Ryokojouma are two examples that come to mind. I even like some braindead ones, like Infinite Stratos. But only in small doses.


I love Infinite Stratos. It is my biggest guilty pleasure. The plot is so awful it might as well be non-existent but I just love the characters so much. Even Ichika. I watch IS whenever I am feeling down. I think I have watched through the first and second seasons like 4 times now.

If I had to say what makes IS charming, I'd say it would be the way the romcom situations are written and the dialogue. The show throws character development and plot out the window completely, but it gives you a very satisfying 'flirting with girls' type of experience.
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xxJing wrote:



There are a few harems like AYA, not many, that introduce the harem after they have already established a solid relationship between the MC and one girl. The problem with those harems is, it becomes EXTREMELY difficult to like any of the girls other than the main one, because in essence all the other girls are home wreckers.


I'd say like many tropes, there are both good and bad examples. AYA is done poorly in this regard (the manga is far superior--if nothing else, because the focus is a bit more on "group of friends having fun together" and a bit less on "group of girls going after a guy who's secretly taken"). Although I admit bias, in that I tend to give AYA a pass, because I love the manga and even the anime can't ruin the basic chemistry of the main couple.

Still, the formula you describe works fine in Bakemonogatari (Hitagi and Araragi start going out in the second arc, before he meets most of the girls that will fall for him), Familiar of Zero (although the harem does get a little old eventually there, I admit), Certain Magical Index (assuming that Index is, in fact, the ultimate romantic foil--which seems a good bet, given that she's the eponymous character), Love Hina (it's clear to everyone in the house from almost Day 1 that Naru and Keitaro like each other, though I'll admit that the manga is way better than the anime)...

Yes, it takes the suspense out of the harem, but honestly, most harems lack suspense anyway--at least the ones that grace us with resolutions. (Did anyone really ever think that Nagisa wasn't going to get Tomoya? But did knowing that take enjoyment away from the series?)

The question isn't whether one girl in the harem is given a head start. The question is whether the other girls in the harem are developed as real characters, with independent motivations, and an independent relationship with the MC. If that's true, then it has the potential to be a good harem show--even if the harem "winner" was clearly announced at the outset.
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I'm only 25 in the eternal sense. Very experienced at it shall we say.

I'm a big fan of both genres, although I don't think Inou Battle qualifies as a harem series yet. Sorry but if you wait 75% of your run to start one it isn't a big part of the series. Now if it has another season then I'll probably change my mind.

My favorite series is High School DxD. It didn't turn into a harem until season two, but has always been ecchi. I like the slow buildup where they've been averaging one girl every six episodes.


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Add to the list, listed age is accurate, greatly enjoy 'em (sometimes)
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xxJing wrote:

I love Infinite Stratos. It is my biggest guilty pleasure. The plot is so awful it might as well be non-existent but I just love the characters so much. Even Ichika. I watch IS whenever I am feeling down. I think I have watched through the first and second seasons like 4 times now.

If I had to say what makes IS charming, I'd say it would be the way the romcom situations are written and the dialogue. The show throws character development and plot out the window completely, but it gives you a very satisfying 'flirting with girls' type of experience.


T.T, what is all of this in red.
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I only had access as a teenager to whatever ecchi things I saw on TV. I sure as hell wasn't going to spend the hundreds of dollars required to buy a full series of something either, since I would have done so totally blind. Things like MAL weren't a thing in the late 90's and with my 56k modem and 800MHz PC there wasn't much I was going to accomplish for myself on the internet.

So if I did ever buy any media, the only way to vet it for myself was to have seen it on tv. That meant I had very few tapes/discs and I rewatched a lot of DBZ :P

Suffice to say I had a few lean anime years between daily Toonami folding, and discovering the glory of streaming anime on Hulu in 2009. (I was a few years late to the anime streaming game, but oh well) That then led me to discover the joys of fan subs. And long story short that ended up being my first true introduction into more ecchi material.

So I just can't say how I would have reacted when I was younger to that sort of stuff. A few years ago I was in my mid-20's but I was still sort of young in terms of being a fan. I found myself at that point enjoying harems more than I do now. But it hasn't ever really been a sexual thing with me. I just sort of enjoyed the light hearted atmosphere of shows like Rosario Vampire and Girls Bravo. And even when I was a teenager I remember enjoying Tenchi Muyo and El Hazard for pretty much the same reasons.

The reason I likely don't enjoy them at this point is because they feel played out. Nothing feels new or unique when I watch a harem these days. I enjoy predictability at times, but only to a point. There has to be some great writing to back up harems for me to watch them now.
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Posted 12/21/14
I like it, but I have an infinite capacity for consumption of ecchi stories anyway.
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I think I must not have stated my argument well as I think Ai Yori Aoshi is NOT a harem show despite being labeled as such. I've also seen it listed as a fan service show! (Are we even watching the same show as I did?) Let's look at the characters.

Kaoru Hanabishi (Honjo) loves Aoi Sakuraba (Honjo) and vice versa
Kaoru Hanabishi (Honjo) had feelings for Tina Foster and she had some for him, but neither followed up on the budding feelings. At beast Tina has some regret over not following up AND she sees the real relationship between Kaoru and Aoi. NOT a love triangle. But this might be a better description of the show than harem.
Miyabi Kagurazaki has no feelings of love for Kaoru, but has come to respect him.
Taeko Minazuki turned to Kaoru to intercede with Aoi for a job. She is grateful to Aoi (for the job) and Kaoru for helping her.
Mayu Miyuki might be in love with Kaoru for cheering her up, but it is more of a love for an older brother type than true romantic love. She has a Princess complex that means interactions with others is . . awkward at best.
Chika Minazuki is another character that has a older brother type affection for Karou, but mistakes Taeko's feelings for Karou as something more romantic than it is and keeps pushing Taeko at Kaoru.

Now they ARE all friends. So there is a level of love in that sense. But the show is about how Aoi and Karou must be 'just friends' and how they can get quality time with so many people around. Somebody put together a youtube of the top 5 romantic moments of the show. Notice how NONE of the other characters even get close to Karou. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShSkj5gD2u8

Maybe I am dumber than Yoshii but that is how I honestly see Ai Yori Aoshi. Or as my standard joke is: I'm older than dirt and half as smart.
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