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Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) vs Fate/stay night
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I keep seeing you post this but, I am confused. Are there more of the Fate series than, the Deen one, Zero, The movie, and now the Ufotable one?

Like wtf does this even mean. was there a series out every year for the past 15 and I just missed every single one? Okay I get there is the deen one, now the movie is a recap of that? And Zero is a recap of which now? and the unfotable is the recap of the movie I assume. or are you including the VN in any of this. I just don't get some of your post sometimes, T.T . Your Hispterness is off the Charts Wind. Old Man Hispter =p


Aside from the shows, you've got the novel series Fate/Zero, a prequel to the original Stay Night story, visual novels Fate/hollow ataraxia and a whole bunch of Stay Night re-releases, video games like Fate/Extra, Fate/Extra CCC, Fate/Unlimited Codes, and Fate/Tiger Coliseum. Then there's Fate/Apocrypha, a novel series, and Fate/Strange Fake, ANOTHER novel series. You've also got the upcoming Fate/Grand Order, a mobile game coming out soon.

The DEEN 06 anime is supposed to be an adaptation of the Fate route of the visual novel, and the DEEN UBW movie is supposed to be an adaptation of the Unlimited Blade Works route of the visual novel. Neither adaptation is good, so ufotable picked up the UBW route and made it into a series which is currently airing. They're also turning the third and best route, Heaven's Feel, into a series of movies to be released sometime next year.


Damn, that is a lot.
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Posted 12/20/14 , edited 12/20/14

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Rav, Fate is an eternal cashin, they've been rerunning the same story for 15 years.

Everything is recap, it's kind of a scam ><


I keep seeing you post this but, I am confused. Are there more of the Fate series than, the Deen one, Zero, The movie, and now the Ufotable one?

Like wtf does this even mean. was there a series out every year for the past 15 and I just missed every single one? Okay I get there is the deen one, now the movie is a recap of that? And Zero is a recap of which now? and the unfotable is the recap of the movie I assume. or are you including the VN in any of this. I just don't get some of your post sometimes, T.T . Your Hispterness is off the Charts Wind. Old Man Hispter =p


Hah, each of us has his own deadly weakness and re-uses are mind. I can yell about macross too, if you want and they're even less retready than Fate.

Joking aside, 2 bits:

a) 4 re-envisionnigs is a lot, especially when some are literally direct remakes.

b) I find Type/Moon annoying as hell, and seeing it come up again every few years is like poking a bad tooth >< I normally leave you guys alone (so tempting to be dirty n the nasuverse thread, really, "NASUVERSE?!!?!") but in this case it was on point. This UBW has exactly the same content as the other UBW.

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Damn, that is a lot.


I wasn't counting other media, but if you are you really have to count the... 5? melty blood games. Their numbering is weird so I lose track.
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This UBW has exactly the same content as the other UBW.


Wow, this is the wrongest thing I've seen all day.
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looked the same as far as I got (which wasn't very), I'm willing to admit being wrong :p
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Basically 06 = Fate (Saber-focused) route; current = UBW (Rin-focused) route; and future movie(s) = Heaven's Feel (Sakura-focused) route and all of them together = FSN anime-verse


Please don't mix DEEN fanfiction with legitimate adaptations Crim-chan, arigatou ^_^


Considering it has a professional company behind it, there's no ufotable "fate" anime (perhaps implying they either a) accept the Deen and don't want to redo it or b) don't feel that its their style of story), and I hold Deen highly I'll keep seeing it as anything but 'fanfiction' (the fact they get their grammar and spelling right most of the time should show its not fanfiction....fanfiction writers forgive me for my little jab its all in good fun )

Want to talk fanfiction how about that tsundere x moe (x10) Rin in beginning of the current series




This UBW has exactly the same content as the other UBW.


Wow, this is the wrongest thing I've seen all day.


This I can agree with, since the movie didn't really bother too much with character development or even providing a decent picture of the story , instead was mostly back to back action scenes. If you knew the story great, if you didn't then....yeah you're screwed or just got to see the nice fight animations xD
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Want to talk fanfiction how about that tsundere x moe (x10) Rin in beginning of the current series


How...never mind.
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kdroberts wrote:
How...never mind.


Looks like that chap really wants the D(een).



That being said, I am one of those who believes that the Deen adaptation attempts to do too many things, but ends up doing very little at all.
Posted 12/20/14

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kdroberts wrote:


xCrimsonEX wrote:

Basically 06 = Fate (Saber-focused) route; current = UBW (Rin-focused) route; and future movie(s) = Heaven's Feel (Sakura-focused) route and all of them together = FSN anime-verse


Please don't mix DEEN fanfiction with legitimate adaptations Crim-chan, arigatou ^_^


Considering it has a professional company behind it, there's no ufotable "fate" anime (perhaps implying they either a) accept the Deen and don't want to redo it or b) don't feel that its their style of story), and I hold Deen highly I'll keep seeing it as anything but 'fanfiction' (the fact they get their grammar and spelling right most of the time should show its not fanfiction....fanfiction writers forgive me for my little jab its all in good fun )




Don't let yourself get hooked all the time, you know people are just teasing you at this point, right?

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Hungover posting is close kin to drunk posting, I apologize for being a little obnoxious this morning ><
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FSN 06: Follows the Fate story but spices it up with parts from other routes. If you want to see Saber developed beyond 'fighting bada$$' that's where you'll have to go (if you don't want to read/watch the VN). I personally found it's interpretations of certain characters to be better than the current series but that's personal taste. I will say that FSN 06 tends to be hit and miss. The music is also stellar. 9/10ths of the time those that say its 'horrible' wanted a 1:1 version and don't get that an adaptation doesn't need to follow exactly how the origin was, it just needs to a) maintain the core elements and b) be entertaining enough to get you to read further into the franchise. These same people that b*tch about how 06 changed things, will turn around and praise the current series changing/adding in things.

FSN: UBW-current series: Follows the UBW story only with a few new scenes (which ufotable is allowed but Deen isn't ). Saber gets no development beyond 'fighting bada$$' as the story is essentially Rin's story and focuses on her and Shirou. Animation is great, though I still prefer the characterizations in the 06 verson.

Basically 06 = Fate (Saber-focused) route; current = UBW (Rin-focused) route; and future movie(s) = Heaven's Feel (Sakura-focused) route and all of them together = FSN anime-verse


Everything Crimson said is correct. Especially the bolded parts.
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xCrimsonEX wrote:

FSN 06: Follows the Fate story but spices it up with parts from other routes. If you want to see Saber developed beyond 'fighting bada$$' that's where you'll have to go (if you don't want to read/watch the VN). I personally found it's interpretations of certain characters to be better than the current series but that's personal taste. I will say that FSN 06 tends to be hit and miss. The music is also stellar. 9/10ths of the time those that say its 'horrible' wanted a 1:1 version and don't get that an adaptation doesn't need to follow exactly how the origin was, it just needs to a) maintain the core elements and b) be entertaining enough to get you to read further into the franchise. These same people that b*tch about how 06 changed things, will turn around and praise the current series changing/adding in things.

FSN: UBW-current series: Follows the UBW story only with a few new scenes (which ufotable is allowed but Deen isn't ). Saber gets no development beyond 'fighting bada$$' as the story is essentially Rin's story and focuses on her and Shirou. Animation is great, though I still prefer the characterizations in the 06 verson.

Basically 06 = Fate (Saber-focused) route; current = UBW (Rin-focused) route; and future movie(s) = Heaven's Feel (Sakura-focused) route and all of them together = FSN anime-verse


Everything Crimson said is correct. Especially the bolded parts.


It's not correct its just his and your opinions -_- don't start this war again please lol




Oh and RIN is best girl no matter what adaptation
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dwilson2000 wrote:


xCrimsonEX wrote:

FSN 06: Follows the Fate story but spices it up with parts from other routes. If you want to see Saber developed beyond 'fighting bada$$' that's where you'll have to go (if you don't want to read/watch the VN). I personally found it's interpretations of certain characters to be better than the current series but that's personal taste. I will say that FSN 06 tends to be hit and miss. The music is also stellar. 9/10ths of the time those that say its 'horrible' wanted a 1:1 version and don't get that an adaptation doesn't need to follow exactly how the origin was, it just needs to a) maintain the core elements and b) be entertaining enough to get you to read further into the franchise. These same people that b*tch about how 06 changed things, will turn around and praise the current series changing/adding in things.

FSN: UBW-current series: Follows the UBW story only with a few new scenes (which ufotable is allowed but Deen isn't ). Saber gets no development beyond 'fighting bada$$' as the story is essentially Rin's story and focuses on her and Shirou. Animation is great, though I still prefer the characterizations in the 06 verson.

Basically 06 = Fate (Saber-focused) route; current = UBW (Rin-focused) route; and future movie(s) = Heaven's Feel (Sakura-focused) route and all of them together = FSN anime-verse


Everything Crimson said is correct. Especially the bolded parts.


It's not correct its just his and your opinions -_- don't start this war again please lol




Oh and RIN is best girl no matter what adaptation


I'm not starting a war, you're the one who quoted me. And it pretty much is, like how he says people complain about Deen adding things and praising ufotable for doing the exact same thing etc. Yeah that's undoubtedly correct. And I have no intention of being a part of any wars so please don't bother me.
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Don't let yourself get hooked all the time, you know people are just teasing you at this point, right?



Nah, I guess its hard to see but in this case I wasn't upset or anything I was humoring/joking while making semi-serious remarks xD (hence the comment about fanfiction grammar and spelling, meant to point out the semi-joke of it)




Okay, let me go ahead and shut my angle in this down: What I said was meant to be taken as my opinion on it (with some humor/hyperbole), along with anyone that happens to agree with it. Hence the 'personally' and 'personal taste' parts. You like UBW series then that's your opinion, as mine is with the Deen version and its character portrayals.

I assume dwilson was more agreeing with my opinion than trying to say its a fact (though I could be wrong so meh not trying to put words in anyone's mouths). Though I will say that I stand firmly by the "an adaptation doesn't need to follow exactly how the origin was, it just needs to a) maintain the core elements and b) be entertaining enough to get you to read further into the franchise" idea. Tokyo Ghoul (anime), FSN-Deen (anime), and Eureka Seven (anime) all show it.

From my perspective Saber is best girl no matter what adaptation, gotta love opinions/perspectives.
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RIN is best girl no matter what adaptation


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Okay, let me go ahead and shut my angle in this down: What I said was meant to be taken as my opinion on it (with some humor/hyperbole), along with anyone that happens to agree with it. Hence the 'personally' and 'personal taste' parts. You like UBW series then that's your opinion, as mine is with the Deen version and its character portrayals.

I assume dwilson was more agreeing with my opinion than trying to say its a fact (though I could be wrong so meh not trying to put words in anyone's mouths). Though I will say that I stand firmly by the "an adaptation doesn't need to follow exactly how the origin was, it just needs to a) maintain the core elements and b) be entertaining enough to get you to read further into the franchise" idea. Tokyo Ghoul (anime), FSN-Deen (anime), and Eureka Seven (anime) all show it.

From my perspective Saber is best girl no matter what adaptation, gotta love opinions/perspectives.


Lol I know what you were talking about, he was the one who said it was correct, so I had to correct him....

and yes yes opinions and stuff lol



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