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What's the true meaning of Christmas?
Posted 12/20/14
-sigh- question is incomplete no matter how i put it, i'm sure it invites questions that i don't care for so for that i give up.
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Posted 12/20/14
The real historical reason for Christmas was to compete with Pagan holidays. Jesus was NOT born on Christmas, although many pagan gods were born on that day
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Posted 12/20/14

BlueOni wrote:

Long of it short, it's an integration of Pagan and Christian populations' religious traditions and holidays intended to secure social stability in the Roman Empire which never lost its kick and has since been transformed to better fit modern consumerism while still retaining its religious overtones. Some treat it as a reverential event celebrating the birth of their messiah while others treat it as an excuse to give each other things, get drunk, and party. Provided aggregate human kindness, compassion, and love is increased by the holiday I'm satisfied.


That's the real answer there
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Posted 12/20/14

metalshiflet96 wrote:


BlueOni wrote:

Long of it short, it's an integration of Pagan and Christian populations' religious traditions and holidays intended to secure social stability in the Roman Empire which never lost its kick and has since been transformed to better fit modern consumerism while still retaining its religious overtones. Some treat it as a reverential event celebrating the birth of their messiah while others treat it as an excuse to give each other things, get drunk, and party. Provided aggregate human kindness, compassion, and love is increased by the holiday I'm satisfied.


That's the real answer there


C'mon. You're making her feel good.
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Posted 12/20/14
I am glad they changed the name. Merry Saturnalia just doesn't have the same ring.
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Posted 12/20/14

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Jesus' birth. Oh I didn't say that. How dare anyone ever say that on the internet.



To people who are religious, it's that. But since this 2014, this is the internet, and this is America, it's obviously not that. It's to buy as many gifts as humanly possible to make yourself look good.







No its not Jesus birthday, its another god (Horus) that is 2000 years older than Jesus but has the same backstories such as Virgin birth, 3 wise men, 12 disciples, heal the sick, died for are sins, ext birthday. Jesus was not born in the winter.

At that in the Bible Christians its a sin to put a tree in your house and decorate it.
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Posted 12/20/14


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
At that in the Bible Christians its a sin to put a tree in your house and decorate it.

It's not a sin.
The Prophet Jermiah refers to the idols made from trees. The Christmas tree in my house is nothing more than a decoration. I don't believe it is a god or that it has powers.
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Posted 12/20/14
not Christ, He wasn't born on December 25th. There was a census taken during His birth, and back then censuses would not have been taken in the dead of winter. The exact date (or year) isn't known, but the dates fall around in warmer seasons.

aside from technicality, Christmas isn't really about Christ anyway -- not in my view. During this season everyone is stressed and spending bookus of money on stuff nobody needs or even wants and many are forced to be with family they don't even like, people get mean and crabby and snappy and the roads are crazy and the same blame 15 songs are played over and over, and suicide rate is high.

If it's about giving, why just give once a year? If it's about sharing good cheer, then why not share it each day? If it's about good food, why not learn to cook? If it's about seeing family you like, why not see them more often? It's like Christmas is the one day everyone should be nice. It's a break from being unkind and unselfish.
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Posted 12/20/14
Getting the best barbie dream house out of all your friends
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Posted 12/20/14
Consumerism.
Posted 12/21/14

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

Jesus' birth. Oh I didn't say that. How dare anyone ever say that on the internet.



To people who are religious, it's that. But since this 2014, this is the internet, and this is America, it's obviously not that. It's to buy as many gifts as humanly possible to make yourself look good.







No its not Jesus birthday, its another god (Horus) that is 2000 years older than Jesus but has the same backstories such as Virgin birth, 3 wise men, 12 disciples, heal the sick, died for are sins, ext birthday. Jesus was not born in the winter.

At that in the Bible Christians its a sin to put a tree in your house and decorate it.


I know Jesus was not born during the winter, I'm very aware of that. But Christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth. That's what the holiday is.
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Posted 12/21/14 , edited 12/21/14

serifsansserif wrote:

The Meaning of Easter, on the other hand is, "it's spring so let's all screw like rabbits" XD


Off topic, but most birthdays seem to happen in the summer (July, August, September):



So guess what's happening in OCT-JAN?

Baby, it's cold outside.
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Posted 12/21/14
I always thought it was torture then you'd get presents for lasting..... I really hate christmas music
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Posted 12/21/14 , edited 12/21/14

Sogno- wrote:

not Christ, He wasn't born on December 25th. There was a census taken during His birth, and back then censuses would not have been taken in the dead of winter. The exact date (or year) isn't known, but the dates fall around in warmer seasons.

aside from technicality, Christmas isn't really about Christ anyway -- not in my view. During this season everyone is stressed and spending bookus of money on stuff nobody needs or even wants and many are forced to be with family they don't even like, people get mean and crabby and snappy and the roads are crazy and the same blame 15 songs are played over and over, and suicide rate is high.

If it's about giving, why just give once a year? If it's about sharing good cheer, then why not share it each day? If it's about good food, why not learn to cook? If it's about seeing family you like, why not see them more often? It's like Christmas is the one day everyone should be nice. It's a break from being unkind and unselfish.


This is an unusual post.

Why don't just say "I want lasagna for Christmas, Jon"?
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Posted 12/21/14
I feel the need to share the significance of December 25th, which has absolutely nothing to do with the birth of Christ. It is the day of the Feast of Sol Invictus - the Feast of the Unconquered Sun. The 25th is the first day after the solstice that is noticeably longer, and was therefore celebrated because the sun had once again gone unconquered by the darkness.

While most of the trappings of Christmas were taken from Saturnalia and Yule, the date it is celebrated on is directly taken from the Feast of Sol Invictus. And so I wish you all a glorious and triumphant feast of the unconquered sun!
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