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Is It Wrong To Hate A Show Because It Is Wish Fulfillment?
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I mean, isn't a lot of anime wish fulfillment in some way? I hate NGNL primarily due to the fact it is wish fulfillment and promotes, escapism, but I feel it's not very fair considering I might like other shows that could be wish fulfillment.


"Wish fulfilment" in it of itself isn't that bad, but NGNL does other things that tends to irk me more than other "wish fulfilment" type anime. I mean Code Geass is just as much a teen fantasy series as NGNL, but Code Geass doesn't try to pretend to be anything other than an absurd hyper-active fighting robot super power show. When the villains are given speaking roles, sure, I have no idea how a country like Britania could function properly for as long as is stated, and I'm not sure I like the japanese victimization complex, but if I accept the premise of the show then the action at least seems to somewhat reasonably follow from the characters introduced, and their worldviews are continuously challenged so as you never feel the show wanted to provide answers to the types of political and racial ideas they introduce. It's happy enough to end it with a martyr and a restored 'peace' of some lasting effect.

NGNL is fantasy, with omnipotent leads, but often you're inundated with comments like "humanity is weak, and stupid... and lazy... and ineffective" so often, and the 'weakness' of the main characters never actually results in failure, such that the show seems calling out "examine me deeply" but if you do you just get "ha ha, you just critically examined a show with lolita incest jokes".

I'd like to compare it to "Problem Children are Coming from Another World, Aren't They?" That show has nearly identical plot elements, "omnipotent to put a weak community back on top", but rather than giving you jokes or a barrage of "ideas", you get character interactions and witty banter. The primary characters all have their strengths and minds of their own that make them entertaining to watch, entertaining to see how they fight, it wants to give the audience an entertaining journey and doesn't try to take itself seriously.

NGNL gives you two fairly boring characters, each not only weak on their own, but inhumanly and oddly weak. They're exaggerations of some of the worst features of humanity, but together, all that weakness vanishes in favor of "plot!". Sora is perhaps entertaining, but he has so many obnoxious comments towards his perception of humanity (of whom he is a literal representative of) that it is difficult to ignore his faults when he is being clever or 'funny'. This for a show that throws in a LOT of particularly low brow fanservice doesn't make for a lot of long-lasting enjoyment.

If the show was less willing to try to pander to deeper ideas while failing to understand how to explore them I might have enjoyed it just as much as Problem Children, since it wouldn't try to put any message too far in front of pure enjoyment. But the series seems tone deaf and genra blind to itself. Kill la Kill got over that problem by lampshading the absurdity of the ideas frequently, NGNL doesn't even try to do that.
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whats NGNL? is it interesting?
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mfafahim wrote:

whats NGNL? is it interesting?


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I didn't care for it and dropped it pretty quickly, but it was quite popular and enjoyed by many. (Also, pretty pink and purple colors)
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