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When I first hear the prospect of Crunchyroll, I was overwhelmed with excitement. Unlimited anime in hd + simulcasting, "sign me up" is what I said. But days removed from the activation of my membership, I've come to realize that there are many older anime that simply are not available in this service. Personally, I find it deplorable that the world's premier anime streaming service does not provide the likes of Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist (vanilla or brotherhood), Dragonball (any of it), Steins;Gate, Trigun, or Neon Genesis Evangelion to name a few.

And while I am aware that it may be difficult to acquire some of these titles, I would appreciate an explanation as to why so many bona fide classics are nowhere to be found. Specifically:

Does crunchyroll solely focus on recent releases?
Do they not care about establishing a robust back catalog?
Are they spreading themselves too thin by venturing into other mediums, i.e. live-action dramas and manga?
Do you care?

As always, thank you for your time and hopefully respectful resonses



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All of the titles you specifically named, like literally every. Single. One. Is licensed by FUNimation. FUNimation has their own streaming service, and thus the majority of their titles will NOT be on Crunchyroll.

Did you seriously think CR was a one stop shop for anime? Because, well, it isn't. The majority of the series CR has are series that Sentai Filmworks eventually licenses or are Aniplex titles. Though they do have many titles that don't have a localized home release at all, too.

But yes, for the most part CR doesn't have many pre-2011 series. If you want deep backlogs, Hulu and FUNimation are your options, really.
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When I first hear the prospect of Crunchyroll, I was overwhelmed with excitement. Unlimited anime in hd + simulcasting, "sign me up" is what I said. But days removed from the activation of my membership, I've come to realize that there are many older anime that simply are not available in this service. Personally, I find it deplorable that the world's premier anime streaming service does not provide the likes of Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist (vanilla or brotherhood), Dragonball (any of it), Steins;Gate, Trigun, or Neon Genesis Evangelion to name a few.

And while I am aware that it may be difficult to acquire some of these titles, I would appreciate an explanation as to why so many bona fide classics are nowhere to be found. Specifically:

Does crunchyroll solely focus on recent releases?
Do they not care about establishing a robust back catalog?
Crunchyroll's mission is to get everything they can as it comes out. They do occasionally fill in with some catalog titles when and where they can, but most of what you mentioned above is held as exclusive licenses by Funimation, so they (mostly) can't get those

http://otakujournalist.com/where-your-crunchyroll-dollars-really-go-an-interview-with-the-ceo/


Crunchyroll tries to license everything

Inspired by a Twitter follower, I asked Gao how Crunchyroll picks which shows to license and stream. The answer: whatever they can get.

“Our licensing approach is very straightforward. We make an offer on every single title,” he said.

Of course, it’s not that easy. Crunchyroll has to pay up front and hope it gets the title—for every title it makes an offer on.
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So, with that being said, what are your reasons for choosing crunchyroll over other streaming services?
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jjjjnn44 wrote:

When I first hear the prospect of Crunchyroll, I was overwhelmed with excitement. Unlimited anime in hd + simulcasting, "sign me up" is what I said. But days removed from the activation of my membership, I've come to realize that there are many older anime that simply are not available in this service. Personally, I find it deplorable that the world's premier anime streaming service does not provide the likes of Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist (vanilla or brotherhood), Dragonball (any of it), Steins;Gate, Trigun, or Neon Genesis Evangelion to name a few.

And while I am aware that it may be difficult to acquire some of these titles, I would appreciate an explanation as to why so many bona fide classics are nowhere to be found. Specifically:

Does crunchyroll solely focus on recent releases?
Do they not care about establishing a robust back catalog?
Are they spreading themselves too thin by venturing into other mediums, i.e. live-action dramas and manga?
Do you care?

As always, thank you for your time and hopefully respectful resonses





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Wow, I sure do love torrenting my anime!
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Wow, I sure do love torrenting my anime!


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jjjjnn44 wrote:

So, with that being said, what are your reasons for choosing crunchyroll over other streaming services?

Because they have current HD simulcasts on a consistent schedule placed at my fingertips every season.

You're not going to find many of the classics streamed, the rights holders know what they're worth and the streaming sub model doesn't generate the cash you'd need to make a competitive bid for those kinds of licenses. Funimation and Viz Media and Sentai and other distributors will often put their titles up on Hulu or their own sites for streaming since they can pair it with the income from selling physical copies, but CR is sub-only: their focus is going to be simulcast-centric.

And the more known a property is, the less likely it is to be streamed in its entirety. Because it doesn't need the edge.
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And while I am aware that it may be difficult to acquire some of these titles, I would appreciate an explanation as to why so many bona fide classics are nowhere to be found.


Do they not care about establishing a robust back catalog?






Well, quite a few Classic titles (Legend of Galatic Heroes, Space Battleship Yamato, etc) are so exorbitantly expensive to license, or so heavy handedly controlled by the license holder, that they are almost impossible to get. Some other older titles are almost impossible to get because of the music rights (Seriously, it's one of the reasons why certain openings for One Piece aren't shown on Crunchyroll) So it's better for them to get the newer stuff as producers are eager to make some of their production money back for the streaming rights. Once an older title becomes a classic, the more difficult it will be to get the rights for it.
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jjjjnn44 wrote:
So, with that being said, what are your reasons for choosing crunchyroll over other streaming services?

I didn't choose one over another. Or, to put it another way, I subscribe to both Funi and CR, and occasionally use (free) Daisuki, I see most of the anime that comes out and am still working through the backlogs. I also have Netflix, and Amazon Prime (originally because of the 2-day shipping, but streaming is a nice bonus to me) and I use Hulu as a last resort when I can't see something anywhere else. If TAN had a streaming service that worked on Roku, I'd get that, too, until I got through their catalog, since they don't seem to be competing for simulcasts anymore.

I make CR my playground though, because I like the user features here better, warts and all: cleaner looking forums with (usually) better participants, being able to create your own pages like Rotten Sushi if you wish, and an organizable queue that (usually) works in concert with device use as well as the web player.
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Let's all just take a moment to appreciate the tangled mess that is international copyright law and licensing agreements.

Now let's take a moment to purge the previous moment's horrors from our minds.

Crunchyroll does have a lot of good titles in its back catalogue (seriously: go to the browse section and poke about), but, as Koda89 pointed out, Funimation and other competing streaming services have their own agreements with creators. And those agreements are limited, as the most recent site news item reminds us. This is especially true of popular titles which are in higher demand, because their creators can tag them with a higher price.
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jjjjnn44 wrote:

So, with that being said, what are your reasons for choosing crunchyroll over other streaming services?


I didn't choose it over the others

I subscribe to multiple streaming services and enjoy as many shows as I can watch.

and CR does have a pretty nice catalog of older stuff. Just click on the Shows link at the top of the page and start browsing, plenty of good stuff to watch

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kdroberts wrote:

Wow, I sure do love torrenting my anime!


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jjjjnn44 wrote:

Personally, I find it deplorable that the world's premier anime streaming service does not provide the likes of Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist (vanilla or brotherhood), Dragonball (any of it), Steins;Gate, Trigun, or Neon Genesis Evangelion to name a few.

And while I am aware that it may be difficult to acquire some of these titles, I would appreciate an explanation as to why so many bona fide classics are nowhere to be found.

Expecting one streaming service to have all (or even most) titles you desire is like expecting a single music label to have most of your favorite musical acts, or a single network to have most of your favorite TV shows. Look at even larger services like Netflix or Hulu and you'll find neither one has close to everything in mainstream entertainment.


All but one of the shows you mentioned were already licensed before CR even existed as a legit service. The one exception is Steins;Gate, which CR did have as a simulcast and for some time after. It was licensed by Funimation, and as it was a Kadokawa series, it was pulled by them from CR, per their standard procedure for series licensed for home video.

While the original license for NGE has expired, apparently the publisher apparently simply isn't interested in licensing the series at the current time. Given that Funimation, which holds the movie licenses, has not been able to stream any of them, I have my doubts about the series being available for streaming even if it were for a new home video license.
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jjjjnn44 wrote:

So, with that being said, what are your reasons for choosing crunchyroll over other streaming services?


Simple.. There is no alternative. Where i live it's pretty much Crunchyroll or nothing. Most other sites don't show to denmark at all and if they do it might be a single series or two.

So it's a simle case of there being no Alternatives here. So everytime i see funimation getting a series i do cringe a bit. And even if Funimation doesn't end up with it in it's Tenebrous grip it's not too uncommon to see a series still not available here for one Arbitrary reason or the other.

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