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What's the Difference Between A Mental Illness and Being A Sick Son Of A Bitch?
Posted 1/1/15
I want to know where to draw the fine line between "this person needs help" and "lock him up".
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I think everyone has that moments where they want to strangle someone to death, but once you do it you've crossed the threshold.


Psycho Pass like stuff is what we need. If your stress levels and hue gets too cloudy....you're in need of help or neutralization.
Posted 1/1/15

AiYumega wrote:

I think everyone has that moments where they want to strangle someone to death, but once you do it you've crossed the threshold.


You don't want to strangle me to death do you?

I have no idea why you said what you said.
Posted 1/1/15

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

I think everyone has that moments where they want to strangle someone to death, but once you do it you've crossed the threshold.


You don't want to strangle me to death do you?

I have no idea why you said what you said.


No, I don't want to strangle you. You're a cool guy.

A lot of people would say "homicidal thoughts" are a mental illness, but acting on them makes you an actual sick son of a bitch rather than someone who just thought of killing the guy driving slow in front of them, or the douchelord who's giving you a hard time.

Mental illness is a serious thing though, and 99% of mass murderers, like high school shooters, stuff like that, use the "I'm insane" card to try and cover up the fact they intently chose to kill. I think having the problems those people had, which I don't know exactly what it is but antisocial personality disorder, manic depression, schizophrenia, is one thing, but going to school and killing 30 people is something that makes you, like you said, a sick son of a bitch.

See what I mean?
Posted 1/1/15

AiYumega wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

I think everyone has that moments where they want to strangle someone to death, but once you do it you've crossed the threshold.


You don't want to strangle me to death do you?

I have no idea why you said what you said.


No, I don't want to strangle you. You're a cool guy.

A lot of people would say "homicidal thoughts" are a mental illness, but acting on them makes you an actual sick son of a bitch rather than someone who just thought of killing the guy driving slow in front of them, or the douchelord who's giving you a hard time.

Mental illness is a serious thing though, and 99% of mass murderers, like high school shooters, stuff like that, use the "I'm insane" card to try and cover up the fact they intently chose to kill. I think having the problems those people had, which I don't know exactly what it is but antisocial personality disorder, manic depression, schizophrenia, is one thing, but going to school and killing 30 people is something that makes you, like you said, a sick son of a bitch.

See what I mean?


No, not at all. What I am wondering what is mental illness and what is simply being "evil".
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Posted 1/1/15 , edited 1/1/15
Well, a lot of people who are mentally ill are not a danger to others, for one. People suffering from severe depression are mentally ill. It is a mental disorder. There is also something like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. It is a mental disorder brought on by biological factors. I have OCD, and ended up getting it severely bad. The strong urge to do compulsive behavior when there are certain thoughts that distress me, and that I obsess over the things that bother me when I can't do the compulsive behavior...these are things that are a part of this mental disorder and I am technically mentally ill for suffering with the disorder. But I and the vast majority of people with OCD are not dangerous to others. Most people with very bad depression are not a danger to others, either.

'Mentally ill' is a term with quite a stigma, but not everybody who is mentally ill is dangerous and to be feared. In fact, maybe said inviduals are not only not to be feared, but really are in need of help, for they do suffer much.

When somebody is mentally ill but also needs to be 'locked up', as you put it, OP, it is when they have certain types of mental illnesses (like sociopaths and psychotic people) and when they have a poor regard for the life and well being of others (or even animals; they could move up from animals to people)...basically, people who are of a malicious and menacing and deviant nature. Now unfortunately, these poor people are suffering too and are in need of help. It is just very unfortunate because on top of this, they might hurt others and then they are not only suffering and not getting the help they need, but they are feared by the masses, misunderstood, and hated by many (depending on if they do something terrible).

An example would be James Holmes, the guy that shot people at a Colorado movie theater. It was terrible, everyone wishes he didn't do it, but also...he is very mentally ill. It wasn't like he was of a sound, healthy mind when he planned that attack out and carried it out. It is sad and frustrating. Currently, the best we can do for some individuals is lock them up in a hospital, give them treatment which may or may not do them much good, and monitor them, perhaps releasing them only if experts deem it right to do so.
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What I was trying to say, in simplest terms...

Having something like schizophrenia is fine, BUT committing murder because voices told you to do it is simply being evil.

Or having a god complex is fine, but using it like Hitler is evil.

I don't know how else to explain it lol

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Being a sick sob would be doing evil for deliberatE enjoyment. Mental illness suggest the person can't help themself.
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You become a sicko when you act on your desires
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If you think you can gather/have a harem, then you're mentally ill. If you actively try to make one, then you're a sick son of a bitch.
However, if you DO end up in your own harem, then you're both.

It's as simple as that.
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Posted 1/1/15 , edited 1/1/15

AiYumega wrote:

Having something like schizophrenia is fine, BUT committing murder because voices told you to do it is simply being evil.



A schizophrenic's mental voice doesn't tell them to murder. If such a thing occurs, there are multiple disorders at work with schizophrenia.

The schizophrenic's mental voice merely tells them how worthless they are, how they've done such horrible things which they instinctively believe having done despite not actually occurring, and the like. A schizophrenic's mental voice hurts them, belittles them, and instills paranoia in them. It doesn't tell them to murder without other serious issues in their life, like childhood abuse.


Posted 1/1/15

Phersu wrote:


AiYumega wrote:

What I was trying to say, in simplest terms...

Having something like schizophrenia is fine, BUT committing murder because voices told you to do it is simply being evil.

Or having a god complex is fine, but using it like Hitler is evil.

I don't know how else to explain it lol



A schizophrenic's voice doesn't tell them to murder. If such a thing occurs, there are multiple disorders at work with schizophrenia.

The schizophrenic's voice, however, merely tells them how worthless they are, how they've done such horrible things which they instinctively believe having done despite not actually occurring, and the like. A schizophrenic's voice hurts them, belittles them, and instills paranoia in them. It doesn't tell them to murder without other serious issues in their life, like childhood abuse.


That's exactly what I'm saying. It's used as an "excuse", but schizophrenia is a mental illness, murder is being a sick son of a bitch.

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Posted 1/1/15 , edited 1/1/15

AiYumega wrote:
That's exactly what I'm saying. It's used as an "excuse", but schizophrenia is a mental illness, murder is being a sick son of a bitch.


Really?

I suppose all soldiers defending their loved ones and homelands are sick sons of female breeding dogs then. You could argue that such a thing isn't murder, but killing is killing....etc.

Yeah. I lost interest halfway through that sentence. Carry on.
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Oh come on you know what I mean! Murder like I mentioned before, school shootings, or random acts of violence. War and soldiers is a totally different topic.

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Public perception, I guess, and how their "sickness" manifests. Its doubtful a suicidal person would be thought of as needing criminal prosecution as opposed to a pyromaniac or kleptomaniac , or someone with anger management issues. Not to say you can't be criminally insane, of course. We can only hope we get to someone in need before it gets too bad, so incarceration can be avoided and civil treatment is still possible.
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