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I have all of them at a high level. However, I have become quite used to second guessing myself because my dad has all of them to a higher level. After seeing my dad beat someone then immediately say it was their fault, I realized I really don't want to be like that .
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I actually grew up with a few narcissistic people. They still wonder why I don't want to be friends with them anymore.
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It's true that a narcissist does not realise that they are narcissistic unless they are the 'self-aware narcissist'. That is someone who knows that they are narcissist and some of them go into therapy to try to change themselves.
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Narcissistic Personality Disorder is defined as having five or more of the following traits:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or
high-status people
(or institutions)

Requires excessive admiration

Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

I myself display three of these traits (Envious, fantasies and arrogance). Everyone has some narcissistic traits. There is a direct correlation with the amount of narcissism and material success. the more narcissistic someone is, the more successful they are. It's very hard to find someone with all 9 traits. Those people usually end up murdering someone.

How many narcissistic traits do you have?


Five or more.
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It's true that a narcissist does not realise that they are narcissistic unless they are the 'self-aware narcissist'. That is someone who knows that they are narcissist and some of them go into therapy to try to change themselves.


Lots of people can display these traits without being true narcissists,

The problem lies in when it becomes a real disorder. How those traits display themselves and whether the actions are entirely self-involved.
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RavingDragon wrote:

It's true that a narcissist does not realise that they are narcissistic unless they are the 'self-aware narcissist'. That is someone who knows that they are narcissist and some of them go into therapy to try to change themselves.


Rare. People with Personality Disorders generally only seek therapy due to the influence of others around them, as they don't think anything is wrong with them. A main difference between a Personality Disorder and a regular mental disorder is exactly that. A regular mental disorder causes distress to the one suffering from it, such as OCD. OCPD, which is similar, causes distress to others rather than the person with it. So treating people with Personality Disorders is difficult to say the least, primarily because they believe nothing is wrong with themselves.

Unless you're treating someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder. Then that is probably more difficult because they tend to fall in love with the therapist. The above still applies, though. So double whammy.
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RavingDragon wrote:

It's true that a narcissist does not realise that they are narcissistic unless they are the 'self-aware narcissist'. That is someone who knows that they are narcissist and some of them go into therapy to try to change themselves.


Rare. People with Personality Disorders generally only seek therapy due to the influence of others around them, as they don't think anything is wrong with them. A main difference between a Personality Disorder and a regular mental disorder is exactly that. A regular mental disorder causes distress to the one suffering from it, such as OCD. OCPD, which is similar, causes distress to others rather than the person with it. So treating people with Personality Disorders is difficult to say the least, primarily because they believe nothing is wrong with themselves.

Unless you're treating someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder. Then that is probably more difficult because they tend to fall in love with the therapist. The above still applies, though. So double whammy.


Personality disorder? Is that a real thing?

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Personality disorder? Is that a real thing?



....Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Right there in the title.
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I don't know, I can be very exploitative sometimes, but normally I am not. Also, I don't know about feeling like I am special, but I am kind of specific about who I'm friends with, but not about status. Other than that I'm pretty much perfect and way more important than like, every one here.
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morechunch wrote:


Phersu wrote:


RavingDragon wrote:

It's true that a narcissist does not realise that they are narcissistic unless they are the 'self-aware narcissist'. That is someone who knows that they are narcissist and some of them go into therapy to try to change themselves.


Rare. People with Personality Disorders generally only seek therapy due to the influence of others around them, as they don't think anything is wrong with them. A main difference between a Personality Disorder and a regular mental disorder is exactly that. A regular mental disorder causes distress to the one suffering from it, such as OCD. OCPD, which is similar, causes distress to others rather than the person with it. So treating people with Personality Disorders is difficult to say the least, primarily because they believe nothing is wrong with themselves.

Unless you're treating someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder. Then that is probably more difficult because they tend to fall in love with the therapist. The above still applies, though. So double whammy.


Personality disorder? Is that a real thing?



I know it sounds weird. it's kind of like saying that someone has a shitty personality so they must have a personality disorder but it's far from that.
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I know a lot of people who have these tendencies, but few who have them all.. most of them are not highly successful, but will put on a front that they are. This town was once run by the church of god..A lot of wealthy good-to-do yuppies in a christian liberal arts school nearby have this tendency, they act like they are god's gift to the human race..most of them are out of town (far) during holidays .. very noxious to encounter if you're not one of them.. I sometimes muse about running them over with my car , kidding of course..
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"disorder" ? seriously whatever happened to just "bad behavior"

well, whatever. i'm definitely not narcissistic, only thing listed that fits me is "unwilling to identify with the feelings and needs of others". but that's just i'm lazy lol. too much effort to care

i am however very materialistic. gimme more stuff or better yet give me a great job so i can buy it on my own
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symphonicecho wrote:

I know a lot of people who have these tendencies, but few who have them all.. most of them are not highly successful, but will put on a front that they are. This town was once run by the church of god..A lot of wealthy good-to-do yuppies in a christian liberal arts school nearby have this tendency, they act like they are god's gift to the human race..most of them are out of town (far) during holidays .. very noxious to encounter if you're not one of them.. I sometimes muse about running them over with my car , kidding of course..


http://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/blackwell-brian.htm

This person is the face of narcissism. This is one of the most extreme cases of Narcissistic Personality Disorder I have read. There's a lot of text to go through but I find it quite fascinating that people like this exist.
Posted 1/2/15
Hello, toads.

Admire and envy me.

.... You know, that's enough to drive anyone crazy...
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I've had all of these traits at certain low points in my life (and probably coming points), but I don't see myself as any of these when I'm "normal". But I do know some people in my family that have all of these traits .-.
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