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Posted 1/3/15 , edited 1/3/15
Rewrite was my favorite Key VN and only behind Fate/stay as my all time favorite. While the first part of they game is basically a key game with lots of humor the actual character routes are what make the VN so great.

Kanon was good just feels really old,

Clannad had way to many routes and some that I had 0 interest in doing and the fact that you basically need a walkthrough is quite annoying.

Little Busters was good for the humor but the character routes fell short. What made LB good is that Refrain is the best route in any VN I have played so it redeemed itself.
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Posted 1/3/15 , edited 1/3/15

LoomyTheBrew wrote:


dwilson2000 wrote:


Ah I see. But you should know you can never prepare yourself for Key anime! Also I dare you to watch them all in a row!

And it seems I'm in the opposite situation you are because I have yet to play/read Rewrite.


Haha that's true. And I'm thinking about doing that Which order would you recommend viewing them in?

And lol it seems your right! I will say, the only thing that bugs me about Key character designs are the fucking eyes. Too damn big (Little Busters anime and Angel Beats and soon to be Charlotte being the only exceptions).


Hm well personally I would say Air first then Kanon then Little Busters. But I don't think it really matters. Although I arched Air last and so the ending surprised me so that might also be a good choice.

And yeah those eyes are really big, aren't they? I wonder what it would be like staring into them.
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Looking forward to the Clannad VN. After everything so many fans have said, I am hyped for the full experience.


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And yeah those eyes are really big, aren't they? I wonder what it would be like staring into them.


And that was the last we saw of Wilson, that day ....
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:

Looking forward to the Clannad VN. After everything so many fans have said, I am hyped for the full experience.


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And yeah those eyes are really big, aren't they? I wonder what it would be like staring into them.


And that was the last we saw of Wilson, that day ....


I think that, as time went on, Itaru Hinoue's rendering of eyes got a little less absurd. If you look at Moon and One (the games the founders of Key worked on before Key), they were even bigger. And, after Little Busters!, Na-Ga was the main character artist, so, while the characters still look like "Key characters", their facial features are a bit more realistic.

I've never necessarily disliked her character designs, but I think it's fair to call Hinoue's characters "oddly proportioned".
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Posted 1/4/15 , edited 1/4/15
So, I have actually started reading Rewrite now. Although I am not that far in, on the 16th of October still, I am liking it quite a bit so far. The comedic writing is very key, but seems to be a little spicier than usual. There are some parts in there I laughed out loud at, especially that one about internet trolling was just hilarious
I am also liking the world a lot more than I expected to, it is just so colourfull and immersive, plus the musical score is very pleasant, but that is something that was to be expected. Also, there is not a single girl I dislike so far, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing how I normally end up dreading to go down one of the routes, just because I dislike the heroine. That isn't the case here, at least not so far. The character designs are also starting to grow on me a little, except for eye patch girl, but whatever.
Of course I haven't gotten into the interesting stuff that farispie promissed quite yet, but you can most definitely say that I am hooked.


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And I cannot wait to actually start a route (i'm trying to start Kotori's first), the common routes in all VNs are a little slowish and boring, but necessary to set up the world.


I am also really looking forward to this. I am curios if you can just go into any route right off the bat or if you have to complete them in a specific order. I am hoping (and also guessing, seeing my previous experience with key works) that you can just romance any girl you like, because while I do like Kotori, I am more into Akane or Chihaya at this point, so I'd kind of like to do them first, if possible. Also Lucia, she is just so tsun


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At least the MC is pretty witty and hilarious so I enjoy reading his thoughts.


I can see why you would enjoy that, quite different from F/SN, isn't it?
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I am also really looking forward to this. I am curios if you can just go into any route right off the bat or if you have to complete them in a specific order. I am hoping (and also guessing, seeing my previous experience with key works) that you can just romance any girl you like, because while I do like Kotori, I am more into Akane or Chihaya at this point, so I'd kind of like to do them first, if possible. Also Lucia, she is just so tsun


IIRC, at the start of the game, you can enter the routes for Kotori, Chihaya, and Lucia. Completing Chihaya's route unlocks Akane, Kotori's unlocks Shizuru (sp?), and Lucia's unlocks...nothing. To get to the ending (the Moon and Terra routes) you need to complete all of them.

I did Chihaya's route first; it's fine to start with it. Generally, people recommend starting with Kotori because it explains a lot of details about the universe that the other routes don't, but Chihaya's route isn't hard to follow without it or anything.

Akane's route is probably best left for last, mostly for narrative purposes. Without spoiling much of anything, it takes place over the longest time line, and closes a lot of plot threads from the other routes. That said, I did actually like the romances with Lucia and Akane the most, even if Lucia's route does demonstrate that Ryukishi07 isn't capable of writing a conventional romance (if, you know, Umineko wasn't proof enough of that).

So, I think that the story probably "flows" best if you do Kotori's first and Akane's last, but there's quite a bit of leeway in terms of the route order, and I don't think it actually hurts the routes too much if you do them in another order.
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So, I have actually started reading Rewrite now. Although I am not that far in, on the 16th of October still, I am liking it quite a bit so far. The comedic writing is very key, but seems to be a little spicier than usual. There are some parts in there I laughed out loud at, especially that one about internet trolling was just hilarious
I am also liking the world a lot more than I expected to, it is just so colourfull and immersive, plus the musical score is very pleasant, but that is something that was to be expected. Also, there is not a single girl I dislike so far, which is quite an accomplishment, seeing how I normally end up dreading to go down one of the routes, just because I dislike the heroine. That isn't the case here, at least not so far. The character designs are also starting to grow on me a little, except for eye patch girl, but whatever.
Of course I haven't gotten into the interesting stuff that farispie promissed quite yet, but you can most definitely say that I am hooked.


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

And I cannot wait to actually start a route (i'm trying to start Kotori's first), the common routes in all VNs are a little slowish and boring, but necessary to set up the world.


I am also really looking forward to this. I am curios if you can just go into any route right off the bat or if you have to complete them in a specific order. I am hoping (and also guessing, seeing my previous experience with key works) that you can just romance any girl you like, because while I do like Kotori, I am more into Akane or Chihaya at this point, so I'd kind of like to do them first, if possible. Also Lucia, she is just so tsun


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

At least the MC is pretty witty and hilarious so I enjoy reading his thoughts.


I can see why you would enjoy that, quite different from F/SN, isn't it?


I reccomend doing Kotori's first and Akane's last for ...reasons.
Posted 1/4/15
Thanks for the input, I appreciate the help I'll be reporting back once I've finished at least one of the routes.
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Okocha119 wrote:


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

At least the MC is pretty witty and hilarious so I enjoy reading his thoughts.


I can see why you would enjoy that, quite different from F/SN, isn't it?


Haha you're further than me now. I'm going snail's pace through this! I'm really taking my time, but I plan tot play a lot of it tonight.

Also, yes, this guy is way different than Shirou. Shirou was serious and stern with his thought process, he never really liked to play around or anything like that. His eye was always on the ball, no dilly dally really.

This guy is way more laid back and funny. He's a lot more light hearted than Shirou, so it's a nice change. I loved Shirou and all, but it's nice to have change as well.
Posted 1/4/15

LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Haha you're further than me now. I'm going snail's pace through this! I'm really taking my time, but I plan tot play a lot of it tonight.


You shouldn't compare yourself to me anyway, I am a very dedicated reader, up to the point of me not even putting down the Laptop when I go to the bathroom or do the dishes I go through things rather fast, only slowing down when there is really heavy content, but I guess that is all up to personal preference. I can happily say that so far there has been no scene I thought was going on too long or anything like that, the pacing is great, hope it keeps this up once we get to the rather heavy stuff.


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Also, yes, this guy is way different than Shirou. Shirou was serious and stern with his thought process, he never really liked to play around or anything like that. His eye was always on the ball, no dilly dally really.


Well, except for the times he was talking about his morning wood and other occurences like that Anyway, I was just bringing this up since you indicated you played F/SN quite recently, in which case this would be a rather big change of pace for you, probably a welcome one too. I am really liking the main character so far, although I still have to see how his behaviour changes once things get serious.
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We all know best girl is Lucia, Dat romance route was just to brilliant. Loved every second of her route and played through it 3 times :D

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Key is love. Key is life.
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Alright I'm now on Day 6.

Day 5 had tons of foreshadow and more mysteries popping up, I'm excited to see all this unfold. I also think this common route may go on for a while......

Anyways here's some screenshots:

"For now, eh?" Also I cannot wait to start Chifuya's route, I already like her a lot.



Kotarou is just too funny!



"Let me see it." Kotarou, my boy!


I find it kind of funny that all the girls knew right away and none of the boys knew. Gossip transcends many subject matters, so no wonder all the girls knew! And it's so true that girls are more into superstitious things, you should have seen my girls Cross Country team back in high school. Lmao!


Haha getting right down to business! Pretty sure he was being sarcastic to catch her off guard, so I thought that was well played





"Right now living is hard enough." Looks like we got some inner demons Kotori, I was not expecting that.


Pretty cool what Kotori said. Definitely seemed like some foreshadow for Kotarou's future, which was a nice touch.


CREEPY!!!!
Posted 1/5/15 , edited 1/5/15

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We all know best girl is Lucia, Dat romance route was just to brilliant. Loved every second of her route and played through it 3 times :D



I'm liking her quite a bit so far. Her introduction seemed kind of generic but after a while I really started to like her, girl has got some demons. I seem to have ended up on her route, just going by how much focus she is getting right now, even though I didn't really intend to go there quite yet. Oh well, I am liking it, so who cares, I just wanted to lick all those plates
Edit: Yep, going down her route, after October 26th the date changed to her name, so I guess that is what I am doing now.


LoomyTheBrew wrote:


Kotarou is just too funny!


Kotarou x Yoshino - best pairing!



I am going to be annoyed if that doesn't become a thing at one point or another, the tension between them is great
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