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Does anyone know a data source that goes back before the "Little Ice Age" (before 1300)?

XKCD has this timeline:
https://xkcd.com/1732/

Buuuuut I could not find more info about his listed climate data sources, who funded the data collection, how they did it, etc:

Shawn et al (2012)
Marcott et al (2013)
Annan and Hargreaves (2013)
Hadcruth, IPCC


I'm wondering about that XKCD graph. From what I gather, the consensus is that global averages have not risen in the last twenty years. "The Pause". But xkcd shows it going up dramatically.

Also, he puts human as having reached N America at 14500 BC. Recently, archaeologists found mastodon bones in South Dakota that were marked by human tools. Those bones are dated at 130,000 years old. WHOOPS. Sorry, Mr. Sanctimonious Bloviating Web-comic Artist. Maybe you shouldn't virtue signal like a Pharisee when you don't even have your facts right.
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lso, they need to do a better job of presenting evidence of global warming.



This. About ten million times. I think there's a huge gap between how scientists present things and how activists present things. For example, the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone two or three years ago. They were absolutely confident. People can only take crying "warming" so many times before they tune out, you know? But then, when you hear people talking about how "the solution" is a world-wide command economy like communist China --with them in command...well, then it becomes fairly obvious what is driving the hysteria.
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crunchtacular wrote:

Does anyone know a data source that goes back before the "Little Ice Age" (before 1300)?

XKCD has this timeline:
https://xkcd.com/1732/

Buuuuut I could not find more info about his listed climate data sources, who funded the data collection, how they did it, etc:

Shawn et al (2012)
Marcott et al (2013)
Annan and Hargreaves (2013)
Hadcruth, IPCC


I'm wondering about that XKCD graph. From what I gather, the consensus is that global averages have not risen in the last twenty years. "The Pause". But xkcd shows it going up dramatically.


I suppose maybe we'll never know.

Some say that the NOAA's modern measurements revised it, so there was no pause:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38513740

And some say it's still more complicated than that - there could have been a pause after all - with variables like El Nino in 2015/16 affecting measurements:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/death-global-warming-pause-greatly-exaggerated/#
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It'll just make beach front property more affordable.
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crunchtacular wrote:

I suppose maybe we'll never know.

Some say that the NOAA's modern measurements revised it, so there was no pause:
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38513740

And some say it's still more complicated than that - there could have been a pause after all - with variables like El Nino in 2015/16 affecting measurements:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/death-global-warming-pause-greatly-exaggerated/#


Yah. I think I've read news reports about both of those like you show. Thanks for digging those up.

It's really hard to trust all the doom and gloom stuff when they can't even agree if it's warming or pausing or not or both or whatever. I think for the average person: be frugal, be conservative, appreciate nature and grow lots of plants, and value efficiency.
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Global Warming is a myth, how any of you guys can take all those THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING people seriously is frankly laughable. If I go outside and it's snowing...the snow melts because the sun is shining down on it. O-Zone layer? Our emissions are some of the best in the world.
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I believe at the very least that the world is experiencing a warming of some sort. Whose to say that we are partially to blame or its just a natural occurrence. I want our country to focus more attention on the big issues like environment and the space program to allow our people to continue progressing. What would Pepe think lol.

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Global warming will be the cause of one of humanity's greatest challenges. How we confront it will determine the fate of our species.
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HopexLight wrote:

Global Warming is a myth, how any of you guys can take all those THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING people seriously is frankly laughable. If I go outside and it's snowing...the snow melts because the sun is shining down on it. O-Zone layer? Our emissions are some of the best in the world.


I do hope that was sarcasm >_<.
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HopexLight wrote:

Global Warming is a myth, how any of you guys can take all those THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING people seriously is frankly laughable. If I go outside and it's snowing...the snow melts because the sun is shining down on it. O-Zone layer? Our emissions are some of the best in the world.


I do hope that was sarcasm >_<.


Bruh..... Yes...yes it was.
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HopexLight wrote:


mxdan wrote:


HopexLight wrote:

Global Warming is a myth, how any of you guys can take all those THE ICE CAPS ARE MELTING people seriously is frankly laughable. If I go outside and it's snowing...the snow melts because the sun is shining down on it. O-Zone layer? Our emissions are some of the best in the world.


I do hope that was sarcasm >_<.


Bruh..... Yes...yes it was.


Ok haha, you never know anymore to be honest .
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Shipwright wrote:

lso, they need to do a better job of presenting evidence of global warming.



This. About ten million times. I think there's a huge gap between how scientists present things and how activists present things. For example, the polar ice caps were supposed to be gone two or three years ago. They were absolutely confident. People can only take crying "warming" so many times before they tune out, you know? But then, when you hear people talking about how "the solution" is a world-wide command economy like communist China --with them in command...well, then it becomes fairly obvious what is driving the hysteria.


I'm not sure what kind of evidence you want them to present better but there are countless scientific research papers outlining the factors contributing to and the dangers of global warming. The climate change deniers just can't be bothered to read them. Most of the world media also have clearly brought up the subject, with flashy graphs, footage of the ice caps falling apart, wildlife species dying, the rainforests getting cut down or suffering from drought. I honestly don't know what more one can do to enlighten the world of the effects of global warming. I think most people 'get it'. However, there is another area of interest for the elites and the ones controlling the oil industry and government. We all know it, they all know it. It's come to the point where even giants like Exxon is pushing for carbon taxation now (although one has to be sceptical after they've been pushing the other direction for decades).
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we got no control over it so what the point
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