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Symbolism and Deeper Meaning
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I was just thinking that with literature there is always a meaning behind things. I was wondering if the same isn't true for anime. I think it is. When you think about it, anime shows raise very interesting questions. For example Death Note is all about what is good and what is evil, it's about justice and who has the right to administer it. Or Naruto is about finding yourself and about finding your own value through other people.
I just thought that this might be an interesting topic for discussion. please share your thoughts.

PS. if somebody has created something like this before, i am truly sorry, please lock this,
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If your only 2 examples are Death Note and Naruto for symbolism, you're not really looking for anything too deep. There are plenty of other series that are a lot more serious that give social commentary/symbolism on society than the shallower Naruto.
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You want symbolism? Watch GitS
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It's not really about finding meaning, but understanding the means by which that meaning was interpreted. You can probably have an earthshaking truth to talk about, but if the presentation is all wrong, who's going to listen to you?

You said Naruto is about finding one's self, but so is Spirited Away, with it's repeating themes of identity. The question is, which one has more apparent meaning or value in terms of bringing about symbolisms and values? Surely, I'd pick Spirited Away, no questions asked.

So you have to differentiated picking out trash and turning it into gold from picking out gold and making it shine. To me, Naruto is trash, and people adding meaning to it are trying to turn it into gold. Spirited Away is like gold and shines even more so once you come to see the meanings that are hidden within.
Posted 6/30/07
.....Deeper meanings??? XXXHolic is an example, I thinks... One mysterious anime....
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Posted 6/30/07
elfen lied shows to not piss off girls with horns...


but sure anime can have hidden meanings try watching a futakoi, air, kanon, kino no tabe, or even midori and you can see some hint of a meaning in them.
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edsamac wrote:

It's not really about finding meaning, but understanding the means by which that meaning was interpreted. You can probably have an earthshaking truth to talk about, but if the presentation is all wrong, who's going to listen to you?

You said Naruto is about finding one's self, but so is Spirited Away, with it's repeating themes of identity. The question is, which one has more apparent meaning or value in terms of bringing about symbolisms and values? Surely, I'd pick Spirited Away, no questions asked.

So you have to differentiated picking out trash and turning it into gold from picking out gold and making it shine. To me, Naruto is trash, and people adding meaning to it are trying to turn it into gold. Spirited Away is like gold and shines even more so once you come to see the meanings that are hidden within. :)


this is a very good point, however, what i was trying to do was exactly what you were saying turning trash into gold. i dont see wat's wrong with that. even if the show is shallow and seems meaningless, there is still something we can learn from it. that's what i was trying to say. haven't you noticed that the best and deepest meanings are found in the simplest most shallow stories - fairy tales tell teach kids about the fundamental truths of the world. in the same way i think that anime shows, even like naruto can teach interesting lessons about human nature.
you don't have to agree with me. it's just what i think.
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^ Don't get me wrong, I completely respect the fact that you find meaning in something as (as you put it) shallow as Naruto. Personally, I find it odd, but if we come to the same conclusion, who can complain, right?
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all anime have deeper meanings... to edsemac, i admire you for not simply saying Naruto sucks LOLZ. n_n there's clannad, psyren, gantz...

but hey, speaking of Naruto, it would be pretty traumatic if ur best friend has no qualms about killing you.
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Naruto has a very deep meaning, it really depicts that you can help other people by beating the living shit out of them.

OT: True tears, remember how the main characters finds out about what tears really are and how to find it. Very good story indeed.
Posted 3/17/09
about 20 anime series come out a season an at least 2-3 have deep meanings an are very well masked its only when you take time to care an think that you will notice this.
Posted 3/17/09 , edited 3/17/09
Deeper meanings? How about the super metaphysical and allegorical Revolutionary Girl Utena?

I mean come on...Utena has to find a way to break out of a metaphysical world,and not be tempted by Aiko the 'God' of the Academy/World.And then how she has to search for the 'Castle In the Sky' which is actually the symbolic illusion for the 'Adult World'.

I mean there are so many double meanings,it's nearly impossible to get them all.It's a brilliant series though,and I highly recommend it.
You'll have to watch the anime more than once though to understand some things.


P.S If you thought the movie 'The End of Evangellion' was fucked up,check out Utena's movie 'The Adolescence of Utena.'
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Posted 3/17/09

magicuser360 wrote:

Deeper meanings? How about the super metaphysical and allegorical Revolutionary Girl Utena?

I mean come on...Utena has to find a way to break out of a metaphysical world,and not be tempted by Aiko the 'God' of the Academy/World.And then how she has to search for the 'Castle In the Sky' which is actually the symbolic illusion for the 'Adult World'.

I mean there are so many double meanings,it's nearly impossible to get them all.It's a brilliant series though,and I highly recommend it.
You'll have to watch the anime more than once though to understand some things.


P.S If you thought the movie 'The End of Evangellion' was fucked up,check out Utena's movie 'The Adolescence of Utena.'


Yep, I agree with the movie... but i like the series...


Anyway, It depends on what you watch. There are meaningless anime out there and also meaningful ones.
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Posted 3/17/09
you're right.
but i don't think it's that to deep.
like special a.
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higurashi?
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